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This week I'm in the Catskills talking with my favorite Irishman, photographer Leon Carter. We're talking about our experience working in the photo industry.  We're also discussing if it's the right path to peruse your dreams in the art world head on or to get an art adjacent job and work your way in. Also while we're having this discussion our other friends are having a massive bonfire, burning a pile of things we pulled out of Leons barn and half a tree we cut down.