Homelessness isn’t getting worse because solutions don’t work. It’s getting worse because we keep ignoring the real cause — the lack of affordable housing — while misinformation falsely blames addiction and harm reduction.

In this podcast episode, I talk with Daniel Malone, Executive Director of Downtown Emergency Service Center (DESC) in Seattle, one of the most effective homelessness organizations in the country.

DESC houses people with the most complex needs, reduces public suffering, and saves lives every day — yet the very approaches that work are under attack.

We break down why Housing First works, why forced treatment keeps failing, and why harm reduction keeps people alive long enough to get better.

If you care about real solutions, this conversation matters.

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