First on today’s show, Friday host Esty Dinur talks with journalist Ioan Grillo about his new book, Blood Gun Money: How America Arms Gangs and Cartels, investigating the enormous black market for firearms.

Then, Gabriel and John Shipton, the brother and father of Julian Assange, join for a brief segment to discuss Home Run For Julian, their coast-to-coast tour of the United States and campaign calling on the U.S. government to drop its prosecution and finally let Julian come home.

Ioan Grillo is a journalist who has been based in Mexico for twenty years working for media outlets including the New York Times, Time Magazine, National Geographic, and many others. He is the author of the books El Narco: Inside Mexico’s Criminal Insurgency (Bloomsbury, 2012), Gangster Warlords: Drug Dollars, Killing Fields, and the New Politics of Latin America (Bloomsbury, 2016), and most recently Blood Gun Money: How America Arms Gangs and Cartels (Bloomsbury, 2021).