E-Coffee with Experts

How Carl Holden Automates Link Building To Grow Traffic Fast


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In this episode of E-Coffee with Experts, Austin Willman sits down with Carl Holden, CMO of Zellus, to unpack how modern agencies are using large language models to scale SEO, automate repetitive work, and protect company culture while doing it.


Carl shares practical steps for becoming AI-enabled (not just AI-aware): training + hands-on practice, building a “trust framework” for ethical usage, and keeping a human-in-the-loop to ensure quality on money pages.


Learn how RankBot automates off-page SEO and link placements so agencies can deliver predictable results to clients, plus real examples of internal workflows that 10x content output without sacrificing EEAT.


You’ll walk away with tactical ideas you can use this week:


– How to train teams safely and securely on AI tools

– Where automation makes sense and where humans must stay involved

– A playbook for raising revenue per employee and retaining talent

– Practical ways to keep content unique, useful, and Google-friendly


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In this episode, we discuss:


00:00 – 00:22: Introduction

00:22 – 00:50: Welcome + Starting the chat

00:50 – 03:19: Big lessons from MAICON

03:19 – 04:34: How AI is changing agencies

04:34 – 05:22: Automating SEO with RankBot

05:22 – 06:36: Using AI for content and social

06:36 – 07:47: Making unique content with AI

07:47 – 08:38: What Google really looks for

08:38 – 09:20: Balancing strategy and operations

09:20 – 10:42: Using AI to think through ideas

10:42 – 12:49: Steps to become AI-enabled

12:49 – 14:29: Advanced AI uses for teams

14:29 – 15:43: Why firing people for AI fails

15:43 – 17:34: Helping teams use AI daily

17:34 – 18:27: Rewarding efficiency and testing

18:27 – 19:56: How Carl runs a small team

19:56 – 22:20: What ethical AI really means

22:20 – 23:58: Questions leaders must ask

23:58 – 24:31: AI as a team multiplier

24:31 – 25:46: Cutting costs vs growing revenue

25:46 – 27:32: Layoffs and impact on morale

27:32 – 28:13: Why you need many skills today

28:13 – 28:50: Where to find Carl online

28:50 – 29:01: Closing


 Connect with Carl Holden

 https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlholdenmarketing/

 zellusmarketing.com


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