Podcaster and former News 9 political reporter Grant Hermes of the "Make It Make Sense with Grant Hermes" podcast joins Ryan Welton and Oklahoma Memo to unpack a tense week in American politics. The two discuss the Insurrection Act of 1807, the possibility of National Guard troops facing one another on U.S. soil, and Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt’s pointed remarks about federal power.

They also touch on the ongoing government shutdown, how it’s testing both parties, and why public participation still matters.

Timestamps:

0:00 – Intro: Why Grant Hermes says this week “feels different”

3:00 – The Insurrection Act and what “Posse Comitatus” really means

8:00 – How close the U.S. is to internal military conflict

13:00 – Governor Stitt’s “federalist quibble” with the White House

18:00 – Political implications: Stitt’s national ambitions

22:00 – Government shutdown update and public sentiment

27:00 – Why civic engagement matters right now

30:00 – Outro: Courage, civics, and calling your member of Congress

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