Oklahoma is one of the reddest states in America — but 2026 is starting to look considerably less predictable than that description suggests.
Political journalist Grant Hermes, host of Make It Make Sense with Grant Hermes, joins Oklahoma Memo's Ryan Welton for their weekly conversation about the politics behind politics.
This week, Ryan and Grant start in Michigan, where a surprisingly close Democratic U.S. Senate primary raises new questions about polling, turnout, the future of the Democratic Party and what both parties face heading toward November.
Then they turn to Oklahoma.
Ryan and Grant break down the Republican governor's debate between Gentner Drummond and Mike Mazzei, Mazzei's difficult opening, Trump's endorsement and whether Oklahoma's deeply rooted populist streak could matter more than national partisan politics as communities push back against AI data centers, the proposed Inola aluminum smelter and other major projects.
They also ask whether Democrats are overlooking Oklahoma.
Could congressional candidates including Jena Nelson, Suzie Byrd and John Croissant make their races more competitive than expected? What happens when Cyndi Munson finally gets the political spotlight after the Republican governor's runoff? And could Oklahoma force national Republicans to spend money in a state they normally take for granted?
Plus: Markwayne Mullin's latest difficult week in Washington, the politics of immigration and DHS, Grant's reporting on America's missile shortage and the possibility of Detroit automakers helping produce weapons for the war in Iran.
And because it's Friday, things eventually wander into cleaning the house, clutter, marriage, astrology and why Ryan thinks Mad Men is the greatest television series ever made.
It's politics, campaigns and a little nonsense with Ryan and Grant.
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