With Thanksgiving around the corner, COVID cases in the U.S. are rising in most states and across the country as a whole: by 20 percent over the past two weeks. That has us asking what role testing is going to play in keeping ourselves and our families safe for the holidays.

Guests: Dr. Leana Wen, emergency physician, former Baltimore health commissioner, and professor of health policy and management at George Washington University; and Axios' Courtenay Brown and Bryan Walsh.

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