How Did We Get Here? TBS Culture Edition

To cap off our 8th season and tide you over until 2023, we’re bringing you the rare TBS culture episode. No tennis talk whatsoever -- we even had a few tennis-related items on the agenda which we deleted. We’ve got: an hour of TV talk including spoilers for The White Lotus and a few lightning-round rants; thoughts on “queerbaiting” and Kit Connor’s forced coming-out; Mariah Christmas concert review; and takes on blackfishing, digital minstrelsy, T Swift, and more!

5:55 Spoilers ahead for The White Lotus, one of the few remaining watercooler shows

15:45 MVPs Aubrey Plaza & Meghann Fahy

20:50 Siamo tutti gay!

27:30 Is the Golden Age of Television over? It’s ok if it is, all things must pass

31:50 Some shows we enjoyed: Mo, Industry, Better Things, Heartstopper, Somebody Somewhere, The Bear, P-Valley, and more

53:25 Each of us do a mini-rant about TV

01:02:00 Heartstopper and the extratextual: Kit Connor comes out after the fandom accuses him of queerbaiting

01:10:20 David Archuleta from American Idol comes out 

01:15:15 So what happened with Bros?

01:20:55 Recapping Mariah’s Christmas concerts in Toronto!

01:30:30 We need to talk about Taylor Swift (without losing half of our listeners)

01:40:00 Miss Patti has still got it at 78

01:44:30 Terrible news about Celine Dion’s health

01:47:00 Kardashian-Jenner hegemony: when will it end?

01:57:30 Asking each other a tough and a not-so-tough question