In today's episode, Cindy discusses the concept of spiral dynamics.

In Cindy’s words, spiral dynamics “is a model of human development.” In Jean’s, it is “a theory about the past, present, and future of humankind.”

Give it a listen and let us know your thoughts! You can find all the graphics talked about in this interview here.

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Jean Latting is an organizational consultant, inclusive leadership coach, and behavioral scientist.