It's great when employees are passionate and enthusiastic about spreading the Health and Wellbeing message. But - what do you do if they're not quite the right people you want driving the agenda?

What if you need more influential people, especially those not working in Wellbeing or those who are personally invested to drive it?

Today's brilliant guest Dr Sabrina Robinson, Chartered Psychologist and Wellbeing Lead at Essex County Council talks us through this exact problem today and reveals some cunning tricks of the psychological trade to help us on our way.

And, of course, she answers the alien question in a truly novel way!

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Time line of conversation:

00:00 Introduction to the Leaders Podcast

00:45 Meet Dr. Sabrina Robinson

02:08 The Challenge: Ensuring Consistency in Wellbeing

03:08 Renewing the Governance Strategy

04:20 Leadership Buy-In and Accountability

05:49 Engaging the Right People

14:30 Formalising the Governance Strategy

17:32 Achieving Consistency and Employee Experience

19:07 Final Thoughts and Advice

21:33 The Alien Question

22:48 Conclusion and Farewell