Today, Axel Rudakubana was sentenced to a minimum term of 52 years for the murder of Alice da Silva Aguiar, nine, Bebe King, six, and Elsie Dot Stancombe, seven, in Southport. Their families and the survivors of the attack were able to tell the court for the first time how their lives have been changed forever.   
  
On this episode, Niall Paterson is joined by north of England correspondent, Katerina Vittozzi, from Liverpool Crown Court. And to find out how survivors of the attack deal with the lasting trauma, he speaks to Dr Cath Hill, a survivor of the Manchester Arena attack.   

Producer: Emma Rae Woodhouse
Editor: Wendy Parker