When you think of therapy, do you picture someone lying on a couch, retelling their past while a therapist takes notes? It’s time to reframe that vision.

In this powerful episode, Dr. Payal Beri sits down with Melissa Dumaz —licensed marriage and family therapist, holistic wellness expert, bestselling author, and co-host of The Hats Podcast—to explore the multi-dimensional world of healing beyond traditional talk therapy.

With over 20 years of experience, Melissa brings insight into alternative therapeutic modalities like EMDR, Reiki, sound therapy, journaling, and somatic work. Together, they discuss:

• Why talk therapy isn’t the only path to healing
• The science and transformation behind EMDR for trauma resolution
• Navigating cultural stigma around therapy in communities of color
• How healing yourself can transform your relationships and your legacy
• What to do if you’re seeking therapy but feel resistant—or simply don’t know where to start

Whether you're new to therapy, skeptical about its value, or curious about holistic approaches to mental well-being, this episode offers insight, encouragement, and practical takeaways for your healing journey.

Guest Links:

• Learn more about Melissa at www.melissadumaz.com
• Follow @melissadumaz on all social platforms
• Listen to The Hats Podcast wherever you get your podcasts
• Check out her book: The Love Challenge: 30 Days, 30 Ways to Increase the Love in Your Relationship

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Diverse Therapeutic Modalities 

00:44 Meet Melissa Dumaz: A Holistic Wellness Expert 

03:37 The Journey to Becoming a Therapist 

07:45 The Importance of Therapy for Everyone 

09:50 Addressing Cultural Stigmas Around Therapy 

12:54 Therapy as a Tool for Personal Growth 

22:58 Exploring Different Therapeutic Modalities 

26:40 Understanding EMDR and Its Impact 

30:04 Understanding Bilateral Simulation and EMDR 

30:58 The Goal of EMDR: Neutralizing Memories 

34:17 The Microwave Age: Instant Gratification in Therapy 

35:46 The Healing Journey: Embracing the Process 

38:31 Finding Community and Support in Therapy 

40:27 The Role of a Great Therapist 

49:12 Graduating from Therapy: Embracing New Modalities 

51:12 Proactive Mental Health: Addressing Stigma 

52:38 Connecting with Melissa Dumaz