DescriptionHyatt Moore is an artist, former missions leader, and art director navigating the mystery of what it means to be faithful to your gifts. He's been married to Anne for over five decades and has lived three distinct careers—each one marked by surrender.

We begin with Hyatt's conversion in a cheap hotel room in Mexico, the moment he decided to become "a man of God" without knowing what that meant, and the terrifying week of walking in empty fields wrestling with what it would cost to dedicate his life to God. Hyatt shares the story of giving it all up—the Porsche, the sailboat, the creative career—to serve in missions in Guatemala, and how sitting in the print shop doing menial work became the test he had to pass.

We discuss the difference between chasing opportunities and following a calling, why your gifts are seeds that must be cultivated, and his conviction that "being faithful to your gift" is being faithful to God. We also explore his transition to becoming a painter and the moment God told him "I thought that was one of the good ones" when Hyatt said "it's only art." And Hyatt leaves us with the question he's wrestling with at 77: How do you build a big mansion in heaven?

I hope this conversation challenges you to die to your claim on an interesting life, run with the gifts you've been given without demeaning them, and trust that God gives back a hundredfold what you surrender to Him.Links- https://www.hyattmoore.com

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(00:01:03) - Welcome and introduction of Hyatt Moore

(00:03:05) - Opening question about bringing Anne to the Surfer Magazine interview

(00:05:08) - "You hire a whole person, not just capabilities"

(00:06:17) - The story begins: Hyatt's path from technical illustrator to art director

(00:11:51) - Taking the risk to join Surfer Magazine

(00:14:12) - Transition to Mexico and the search for meaning

(00:15:24) - The emptiness despite having everything—Porsche, sailboat, great job

(00:16:56) - "Life's not as fun as it's supposed to be. How come?"

(00:18:27) - The book from his dad about prophecy

(00:19:26) - Reading in Mexico: "I wasn't happy-able"

(00:20:40) - Taking the invitation on the last page

(00:21:41) - The walk in Mazatlan: "This is the first right thing I've done in 10 years"

(00:23:13) - Deciding to become "a man of God" without knowing what it meant

(00:24:59) - The desire to serve God with his life

(00:25:32) - The terrifying week of walking in empty fields

(00:26:34) - "I'm afraid of what it'll cost me"

(00:27:10) - Giving up the claim to an interesting life

(00:28:07) - Saying yes with resolution, not joy

(00:28:48) - The missionary slides and discovering Wycliffe

(00:30:25) - Moving to Guatemala: the Porsche, boat, house went; the wife stayed

(00:31:07) - Menial work in the print shop: "I wonder if this is a test"

(00:31:50) - "My life in terms of interest is going like this"

(00:32:32) - The difference between chasing opportunities and following a calling

(00:34:09) - Being transferred back to the home office

(00:35:36) - What Hyatt wishes someone had named for him at our age

(00:35:49) - "Give yourself to God and then do what you want"

(00:37:22) - Gifts are seeds—water them, sun them, nurture them

(00:38:12) - The particular mix of talents makes you unique

(00:38:32) - "Don't overstress it too much"

(00:39:21) - "Just run with your talent. But do run with your talent."

(00:39:38) - Becoming a painter: wrestling with "it's only art"

(00:40:35) - God's response: "I thought that was one of the good ones"

(00:41:17) - "Don't demean it. Run with it."

(00:42:00) - Being faithful to your gift is being faithful to God

(00:42:28) - Matt's closing question: What question do you have for us?

(00:43:19) - The podcast about getting old at 77

(00:44:36) - What the podcast missed: what's next after this life

(00:45:33) - Degrees in heaven and less time to augment as you age

(00:46:40) - Hyatt's question: "How do you build a big mansion?"

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