Sometimes we all need to be hit with a truth that doesn't feel good yet also feels life-giving at the same time. We hope this episode offers you that experience; because we all have places where we need to grow up. But the easy part is the knowing, and today Rick and Lauren will share how to get to the hard part: growing with their usual humor, vulnerability, and honest stories from their own lives. You won't want to miss this episode!

Rick references Immunity to Change by Robert Kegan

Rick references our episode with Doug Miller

Lauren references our episode on Trying Softer

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