Swami, one thing I know about you is you love photography. When we talk about photography, you get a smile on your face and you light up. There are going to be leaders that lead you at the workplace that will never talk about photography with you ever. They don't care about it. It's just about Swami cranking it out. That's leading with your head. Leading with your heart means I care about Swami. And I might, at lunch, only talk about photography. And by the time the lunch is done, Swami just loves it. Swami's like, wow, that was the best lunch ever. We didn't even talk about work. He cared about me. He wanted to know about photography.
– Shane Cragun
Shane Cragun is a global thought leader on leadership, culture, and strategy, having trained executives at Honda, NASA, U.S. Department of Defense, Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, ABK Bank of Kuwait-Egypt, Yokosuka Japan U.S. Naval Shipyard, and several other multinational organizations. He was a senior partner at Korn Ferry and an executive at Franklin Covey, where he worked with Stephen Covey, the author of 7 Habits of Highly Successful People. He was shortlisted for the Thinkers50 award for his best-selling book Reinvention: Accelerating Results in the Age of Disruption. He regularly contributes to Harvard Business Review and has been featured in Forbes, Success Magazine, Entrepreneur, the Nelson Mandela Library, and many other famed institutions.
Shane is currently an Adjunct Faculty at the Asia School of Business, which is a unit of the MIT Sloan School of Management, and is currently a managing partner at LeadersCode.AI. Hope you enjoy the first episode of the How I Got Here podcast!
Show Notes
00:41 Intro01:59 Shane's journey and inflection points 03:53 The three pillars of effective leadership05:50 Building leadership character and overcoming blind spots07:06 Leading with heart: the key to effective leadership16:14 How to build executive presence 26:18 Leading without being the boss27:44 Leadership styles in US vs. Asia30:32 Nervous vs. empowered teams31:14 Good vs. exceptional leadership33:54 Why Satya Nadella is a great leader35:35 Career breakthroughs38:28 Learning from Stephen Covey (7 habits author)40:41 Character over competence and presence41:48 Overcoming limiting beliefs 52:36 The importance of being in the right rooms
More Shane Cragun quotes from the interview
“I chose to go for less salary, but better experience. So I went to Silicon Valley and that's followed me around my entire life. That first job...has to be rocks. They never leave your bio.” – Shane Cragun
“The first area we judge leaders in is do we like their character? Do we like who they are as a person?...Am I trustworthy? Do I inspire trust? Am I unselfish? Do I lead with empathy?” – Shane Cragun
“Executive presence is a muscle. And some people just have it more than others by birth...Some of us have to really build that muscle. And the only way you can do that is through practice and study.” – Shane Cragun
“Leading with heart means that I'm not treating you as just the director of engineering...I care about Swami who has a spouse and who has needs outside and who has interests and hobbies.” – Shane Cragun
“Your limiting belief is I'm an engineer, no good at sales. That's the problem...A lot of limiting beliefs are made up. You're fighting dragons. You're fighting windmills.” – Shane Cragun
“Be in the right rooms, being around the right people...All it takes is that one chance meeting between the sessions where that guy makes your whole life different.” – Shane Cragun
“Recognize slow as fast and fast as slow with people...Take your time, go slow. You're there for the long term.” – Shane Cragun
“Self leadership always precedes leading others. So people need to do the work on their own self leadership...Leading yourself, getting up on time, doing your exercises, working on improving.” – Shane Cragun
People Mentioned
* Gandhi
* Stephen Covey
* Satya Nadella
* Lenin
* Putin
* Steve Jobs
* Dave Ulrich
* Steve Ballmer
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