How I Live Through This

Bun Lai and I go way back – I stabbed him with my pencil in the 6th grade. Luckily, he didn’t hold it against me and agreed to come on the show to discuss food, love, and storytelling.

Bun talks about his parents – and grandparents – who defied expectations and followed their own paths and how their journeys informed his own exploration. Bun has always been an artist but was drawn to cooking in order to support his mother. Purpose driven from a young age, Bun’s journey as a chef started out of love for his mother, yet evolved and thrived as he took on the role as head chef at Miya’s – the first sustainable sushi restaurant in the world. There he melded artistry and love and, through his storytelling, changed the way we eat and experience food.

We discuss all the changes in Bun’s life since he closed his wildly successful restaurant – done because he was no longer living the kind of healthy life he was teaching others to do. With humility and humour, Bun talks about the small steps he’s taken to make great change in his life and how questioning what he believed to be true has brought him greater clarity. We all have the power to make a difference – it’s enough to exist and do good things in the smallest of ways because the ripple effect will create impacts you can’t imagine.

Connect with Anne Roche:

>>> Visit Anne’s Website - https://annerochecoaching.com/

>>> Follow Anne on Instagram -  https://www.instagram.com/annerochecoaching/

>>> Connect with Anne on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/annerochecoaching/

Connect with Bun Lai:

>>> Follow Bun on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cookinforpeace/?hl=en

>>> Connect with Bun on Twitter - https://twitter.com/cookinforpeace

>>> Follow Bun on Facebook -  https://www.facebook.com/bun.lai

Learn more about Bun here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bun_Lai

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-documentary/a-celebrity-chefs-burnout-and-pivot-to-resiliency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk-9yTZLv5Y

Miya’s: http://miyassushi.com/

The Foote School: https://www.footeschool.org/

Frank Perrine: https://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/28/nyregion/view-foote-school-new-haven-don-t-have-so-many-baby-sitters-enjoy-your-children.html?login=smartlock&auth=login-smartlock

Blind Sushi: https://vimeo.com/189716717

The Cay, by Theodore Taylor https://www.amazon.com/Cay-Puffin-Book-Theodore-Taylor/dp/0141354941/ref=pd_lpo_1?pd_rd_i=0141354941&psc=1

I’m excited to start off Season 2 with Teresa Goines. Everything Teresa talks about – acting from love, standing in community, taking small steps, and letting go of the outcome – shows up in every interview I did this season. These amazing people are proof that every person has the power to make a difference.

At 19, a waitress in a small diner, Teresa swore she’d never end up owning a restaurant. Today, Teresa is the founder and CEO of Old Skool Cafe, a jazz-themed supper club run by at risk youth in San Francisco.

How did she get there? Listen to Teresa talk about how her next job, a correction officer for juveniles, changed the trajectory of her life. Hearing the stories of kids wanting more in their life but not having access to it broke her heart and left her with a calling to do more. She eventually founded Old Skool Café which provides training, jobs and a second chance at life for youth coming out of incarceration and foster care.

How did she go from thinking something to doing something? From seeing a problem to being part of the solution? Teresa talks about the small steps she took, without knowing the outcome, that built upon each other and eventually led to a platform where kids could know their value, gain economic freedom, use their voice, and break the cycle of incarceration for their own children.

Seeing gold in others and supporting what’s already there is at the heart of everything Teresa does. It’s not always been easy – there were moments where the task felt too big, the change too small, the work impossible. But faith and love strengthened her belief that kids could thrive and have the life they were meant to have if she just kept moving forward.

Teresa leaves us with a call to action: don’t ignore the pricks in your heart. Take steps, be curious, try something – even if it’s messy, even if you don’t feel qualified – because every step will help you take the next step.

Come – join us. Let’s live through this together.

Connect with Anne Roche:

>>> Visit Anne’s Website - https://annerochecoaching.com/

>>> Follow Anne on Instagram -  https://www.instagram.com/annerochecoaching/

>>> Connect with Anne on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/annerochecoaching/

Connect with Teresa Goines:

>>> Connect with Teresa on LinkedIn  - https://www.linkedin.com/in/teresa-goines-6063b25/

>>> Follow Teresa on Instagram -  https://www.instagram.com/teresa_goines/

Resources:

Learn more about Old Skool Café:

• https://www.oldskoolcafe.org/

More about from Teresa:

Watch 5 Things I Wish Someone Told Me When I First Started - https://youtu.be/GVw33Tmw7no

https://medium.com/authority-magazine/social-impact-heroes-why-how-teresa-goines-of-old-skool-cafe-is-helping-to-change-our-world-9b128a14d64f

Welcome to Season 2 of How I Live Through This!

This season focuses on Leaders Within.

So many of our institutions, organizations, and industries feel broken or at least deeply flawed.

Change feels impossible – they’re too big, too established, too stuck. Let’s just burn it to the ground.

But then I start talking with people within these systems, and I find hope. People showing up to change. People taking small steps and giant leaps. People who aren’t just talking about hope, but actually creating it.

How do they navigate the complexities of working within a system to change it, and where they see their work moving the needle?

Listen in to hear the stories of those choosing love, seeing possibility, and building bridges.

Join us – let’s live through this together.

Connect with Anne Roche:

>>> Visit Anne’s Website - https://annerochecoaching.com/

>>> Follow Anne in Instagram -  https://www.instagram.com/annerochecoaching/

>>> Connect with Anne on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/annerochecoaching/

I was so honored and excited to speak to my friend, mentor, inspiration – Bernadette Jiwa – that I forgot to welcome her to the show. We had technical issues soon after we began the interview and, even though I got the chance to re-do my introduction, I failed a second time to say hello.  

But this is the magic of Bernadette. Every time we speak, we dive right into the deep end. There’s no shallow end of the pool for us. And since I carry Bernadette in my heart at all times, I forgot to welcome her into a space I feel she inhabits constantly. 

So in we jumped.  

We talked about the many ways in life we show up as leaders outside of professional roles – as wives, daughters, sisters, mothers – and how leading with love creates a fierceness, a power in leadership.  

Love leads all of Bernadette’s stories – from her childhood in Ireland to her life as a writer in Australia. We explore how helping others discover their own stories, and therefore the leadership of themselves through their stories, is work we feel privileged and honored to do in Bernadette’s Story Skills Workshop. Listen as Bernadette shares beautiful personal family stories exploring themes of agency, starting without knowing the outcome, and beginning everything from a place of love.   

Connect with Bernadette Jiwa: 

>>> Visit Bernadette’s Website - https://thestoryoftelling.com/about/ 

>>> Follow Bernadette on Twitter - https://twitter.com/bernadettejiwa  

>>>Connect with Bernadette on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bernadette-jiwa-aa00b329/?originalSubdomain=au  

>>>Follow Bernadette on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/bernadettejiwa/?hl=en  

Connect with Anne Roche: 

>>> Visit Anne’s Website - https://annerochecoaching.com/ 

>>> Follow Anne in Instagram -  https://www.instagram.com/annerochecoaching/ 

>>> Connect with Anne on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/annerochecoaching/ 

Resources 

• https://thestoryoftelling.com/about/ 

• Read Bernadette’s books - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bernadette-Jiwa/e/B009E2FZR8%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share  

Stevie Lee is one of a kind – often described as the “glue”, he’s a connector, a visionary, a politician for good.  The Executive Director at Horizon Community School at Marin City and the Director of Diversity and Inclusion at Marin Horizon School* in Mill Valley, California, Stevie blends worlds by stepping into his power as a mover and a shaker. 

Listen to Stevie talk about lessons he learned as a young man coaching sports in Marin City and how his leadership style developed by helping people see the potential they have in themselves and celebrating the little victories. How does Stevie Lee define leadership? Hear him share his idea of leadership as seeing what needs to be done and doing it, how sometimes going rogue is necessary, and the difference between collaboration and partnership. 

We talk about being focused on the mission and staying true to personal values as a way to create transformational leadership – especially when creating equitable education. Find out how Stevie uses this clarity to define the past 40 years not as work, but rather as “the thing I’m supposed to be doing”. 

*Full Disclosure: My husband, Bill Perrine, is the Head of School at Marin Horizon School. 

Connect with Stevie Lee: 

>>>Contact Stevie - [email protected] 

Connect with Anne Roche: 

>>> Visit Anne’s Website - https://annerochecoaching.com/ 

>>> Follow Anne in Instagram -  https://www.instagram.com/annerochecoaching/ 

>>> Connect with Anne on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/annerochecoaching/ 

Resources:  

• Boys and Girls Club of Sonoma-Marin https://www.bgcsonoma-marin.org/  

• Horizon Community School - https://www.marinhorizon.org/horizon-community-school/mission-vision-and-values  

• NAIS People of Color Conference -  https://pocc.nais.org/About/NAIS-People-of-Color-Conference  

Getting a chance to talk with Sonya Denyse is one of my favorite pastimes – and this conversation was no different.  

What happens if “no” means “not yet”? Hear how being connected to play allowed Sonya to grow up living in a space of possibility despite a lack of resources. We discuss the dream killers and the gift of joy; the differences between raw and cultivated talent; and inspiring action versus inspiring shame in difficult conversations.  

Sonya tells a powerful personal story about how being able to see a dream, convey it to others, and create the support around bringing that dream into reality, directly impacted the lives of those around her in an extraordinary way. We also explore the reality of duality – and how when anger mutes the music and you can’t find the dance, remembering that leadership is not about who’s in front of you, it’s about who’s beside you. 

Connect with Sonya Denyse: 

>>> Find out more about Sonya at DreamDevelopment.com - https://www.dreamdevelopment.com/  

>>>Connect with Sonya Denyse on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dreamdevelopment/  

Connect with Anne Roche: 

>>> Visit Anne’s Website - https://annerochecoaching.com/ 

>>> Follow Anne in Instagram -  https://www.instagram.com/annerochecoaching/ 

>>> Connect with Anne on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/annerochecoaching/ 

Resources: 

• Find out about The Wiz - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wiz  

How does a former Navy pilot work toward a 100-year goal of No More War? By believing in the pure goodness and unlimited potential of others – and empowering others to believe in themselves.  

Meet Jennifer Campbell. Jenn and I first met through a mutual connection and we bonded immediately over our need to call bullshit and our desire to serve a mission bigger than our lifetime. She’s been through fires of combat, entrepreneurship, the very premature birth of her child, and divorce, but by using the Greek virtue of Arete, she guides herself and others toward living to one’s fullest potential. 

Hear how taking a Myers Briggs test during her time in the Navy helped Jenn recognize that she could lead from her heart more successfully than when leading from her head. We discuss the importance of passion to wake up leadership in self – no matter when it arises. And Jen shares a deeply personal – and powerful – story about how trying and failing means she’s still in the fight. 

Connect with Jennifer Campbell: 

>>>Connect with Jennifer on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-campbell-312a281/  

>>>Visit worldAWAKE, Inc on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/worldawake-inc-/  

>>>Find out more about worldAWAKE, Inc at their website - http://www.worldawake.com/  

Connect with Anne Roche: 

>>> Visit Anne’s Website - https://annerochecoaching.com/ 

>>> Follow Anne in Instagram -  https://www.instagram.com/annerochecoaching/ 

>>> Connect with Anne on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/annerochecoaching/ 

Resources: 

Discover The Awakened Leader and the concept of Arete - https://www.awakenedleader.com/  

Find out about The Myers Briggs Test - https://www.awakenedleader.com/https://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/  

Read Egonomics by David Marcum & Steven B. Smith -  

https://www.amazon.com/egonomics-Makes-Greatest-Expensive-Liability/dp/1416533273/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3EU3B5VUJGIU3&dchild=1&keywords=egonomics+book&qid=1632182614&sprefix=egonomics%2Caps%2C211&sr=8-1 

Orlando Bishop wears many hats – among others, he’s a podcaster, coach, producer, and a stand up comedian. His wisdom is coupled with laughter and I always leave a conversation with him having learned a lot and laughed even more.  

In this episode, listen to Orlando talk about his ADHD diagnosis late in life and how coping skills he developed as a child serve as trusty tools he relies on to this day. He’s a fan of leaning into the things that come naturally and gaining clarity around one’s “why” as a way to stay grounded.  We laughed often but also got serious about how to show ourselves the grace we give our clients. What really lights up Orlando? Whether through his films, his stand up, his podcast, or his one on one coaching, Orlando’s goal is to help you do you… better.  

Connect with Orlando Bishop: 

>>> Connect with Orlando on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/orlando-bishop-he-him-his-5baba54/  

>>> Join Orlando on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/AlignPerformance  

>>> Follow Orlando on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/alignp/  

>>> Follow with Orlando on Twitter - https://twitter.com/alignp  

>>> Watch Orlando on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/OrlandoBishop  

>>> Find out about Orlando’s project Align Performance - https://www.alignp.com/ 

>>>Listen to Orlando’s Podcast Unstuck AF - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unstuckaf/id1573142710 

Connect with Anne Roche: 

>>> Visit Anne’s Website - https://annerochecoaching.com/ 

>>> Follow Anne in Instagram -  https://www.instagram.com/annerochecoaching/ 

>>> Connect with Anne on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/annerochecoaching/ 

Resources: 

>>>Listen to Nadine Kelly’s Podcast – Yogi M.D. - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-yogi-m-d-podcast/id1431080351  

Prep for Prep https://www.prepforprep.org/ 

I first met Jackie Davis in The Story Skills Workshop where she developed a beautiful story of self-leadership as a young Black girl in a predominately White school. After the workshop, she took that story and turned it into a powerful performance on a national stage. With an impressive background in marketing and business, Jackie is currently reinventing herself as a professional speaker and storyteller. She shares stories about her personal life experiences to inspire women to step into their greatness and be seen and heard.  

In this episode, listen along as Jackie talks about defining moments in her life and discovers the thread of being a creative explorer throughout. What does leadership mean? As a life-long learner, Jackie gives her unique interpretation and discusses how she shows up – without knowing how it’ll end – by focusing on what she can control. 

Connect with Jackie Davis: 

>>>Watch Jackie performing her story for Silver Linings: Stories from the Stage - https://fb.watch/7VZ2mP4QoG/ 

>>>Connect with Jackie on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackierdavis/ 

>>>Visit Jackie’s website - www.jackiedavis.me  

Connect with Anne Roche: 

>>> Visit Anne’s Website - https://annerochecoaching.com/ 

>>> Follow Anne in Instagram -  https://www.instagram.com/annerochecoaching/ 

>>> Connect with Anne on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/annerochecoaching/ 

Resources 

• The Story Skills Workshop - https://akimbo.com/thestoryskillsworkshop  

• First follower video (Derek Sivers – How to Start a Movement) 

Find out about the Right Company where Jackie participated in a collaborative book -  

https://therightcompany.co 

I first met Hannah Wright in the Story Skills Workshop, and again in the Podcasting Workshop. I was inspired by the generous way she showed up in both workshops and by her determined advocacy. She’s led a life of service and recently found her voice to intentionally step into a leadership role as an ally for LBGTQ+ community. 

In this episode, we explore how Hannah stepped into the role of an accidental ally, and her discovery that “everyone can make the world better from their own place in the world.” We discuss the value of emotional labor and the wisdom of knowing when to shut up and when to speak up. How does a cis-gendered, heteronormative, straight woman, honor the people she is representing as an ally? Listen to Hannah share her gift of showing what the journey looks like – even when it’s bumpy. 

Connect with Hannah Wright: 

>>>Connect with Hannah on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannahwrightaust/?originalSubdomain=au  

Connect with Anne Roche: 

>>> Visit Anne’s Website - https://annerochecoaching.com/ 

>>> Follow Anne in Instagram -  https://www.instagram.com/annerochecoaching/ 

>>> Connect with Anne on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/annerochecoaching/ 

Resources: 

Find out all about where Hannah and I first met at the Story Skills Workshop and again in The Podcasting Workshop – both of which are part of Akimbo Workshops. 

• Story Skills Workshop - https://akimbo.com/thestoryskillsworkshop 

Check out these links mentioned by Hannah 

• https://www.minus18.org.au/ 

• https://www.wearitpurple.org/ 

You can find out more about the Aboriginal and the Torres Strait Islander peoples here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australians 

Listen to the podcasts we discuss: 

Still Processing 

We Can All Be Allies by Hannah Wright – coming soon. 

And finally, we referenced the Keep Going Song by the Bengsons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs-ju_L9pEQ