An airhacks.fm conversation with Justin Fagnani (@justinfagnani) about:

creating fireworks animations with Apple IIe,

games were hard to get for Apple IIe,

"hello, world" with Apple Basic,

enjoying the un-productivity and making funk music,

Basic, Turbo Pascal, Turbo C, Java and Python,

starting with Java 0.9 and Applets,

Microsoft introduced JScript (Visual J++) with major incompatibilities to Java,

staring with Python and Django,

Python over Ruby,

studying an algorithm book for two weeks to pass the interview at Google,

using FileMaker,

starting at Google's HR department compensation planning system,

creating the AppMaker during the "free" 20% Google time,

AppMaker was shutdown in 2020,

AppMaker is an low-code application builder,

one-click deploy and one-click deploy,

GWT and Java were heavily used at Google,

using Java's Rhino to run JavaScript on the server,

the AppMaker clone with Dart,

writing parsers and Polymer Dart,

Chrome supported Dart,

leaving Dart before flutter,

Angular Dart is very popular at the apps group at Google,

wiz is the most popular web framework at google,

joining the polymer team,

html imports vs. JavaScript imports,

CSS-modules and JSON-modules proposals,

lit-html start to provide better tooling story for Polymer 3.0,

lit-html vs. hyper-html,

ES 6 template literals enable great performance for lit-html,

Microsoft's fast framework was inspired by lit-html,

lit-html source code fits on a slide,

lit-html source size is close to 3kB,

the first lit-html breaking change since 2017,

the contractual obligation to support IE,

lit-html vs. lit-element,

lit-element offers a richer, reactive lifecycle,

decreasing lock-in is lit's design philosophy,

passing data between component trees,

cross-DOM communication with Custom Events,

Web Components conventions are micro stacks,

less and less needs for a JavaScript framework,

chrome is shipping with import maps,

web platform - and the tooling is optional,

polymer was not the component host,

polymer is popular inside google,

lit-html is growing fast at google,

Chrome OS is using lit-element,

Chrome Dev Tools is implemented with lit-html