People are often shocked when you tell them that Phoenix is the 5th largest city in America.

You can pick nits about metropolitan statistical areas, but it's clear that Arizona is not the Old West outpost people thought it was back in the day.

So how many people actually live in Phoenix?  This week on Valley 101, a podcast about metro Phoenix and beyond, we talk with the Republic's development reporter about some of the reasons that growth, while still happening in Arizona, may be slowing down. 

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Guests: Corina Vanek

Host: ⁠Bill Goodykoontz⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Producer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Tori Weiss

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