Before creating Now with Natalie and Beyond the Surface, Natalie Manuel Lee shed her former identity as a woman of faith who stayed in her comfort zone. The HIllsong Channel star tells Ashley she gained a new understanding of “death” as she recounts leaving her brother’s leading fashion label, Fear of God, to discover her own purpose as a vessel for fearless conversations. Natalie describes her “coldest winter ever” surviving postpartum depression and how that dark season helped her blossom. The faith-led showrunner outlines how jettisoning the past propelled her into a true purpose, and why it’s important not to “abort the process” necessary for transformation. She affirms that when life leads her to “unbecome,” she gets closer to being the woman she was always meant to be.