This episode is a little different. I was a guest on Catherine Jelinek’s podcast, Breaking Through the Noise — and she generously allowed me to share the full conversation with you.

We talk about leaving corporate, taking action, finding traction on TikTok, and the honest story behind building the Corporate Escapee movement. If you’re stuck, burned out, or thinking about going solo, this one will hit home.

In this episode, we cover:

• Why taking action is the #1 skill corporate trains out of you
• My path from 25 years in corporate → consulting → fractional → building 10+ income streams
• How TikTok unexpectedly became the platform that changed everything
• Why 80% of my 76K TikTok followers are over 40
• The moment one video brought in 300+ strategy call requests in 48 hours
• The three stages of an escapee: Curious, Motivated, and Liberated
• Why your path out of corporate isn’t a leap — it’s a shift
• The reality of layoffs, RTO mandates, and the “profits over people” era
• Why authenticity beats production quality every time
• The mindset shift corporate doesn’t prepare you for

Why this conversation matters

A lot of people want out of corporate, but they overthink the first step. This episode breaks down what actually works — and why you already have more than enough experience to start.

Connect With Catherine

Check out Catherine Jelinek’s podcast:

👉 Breaking Through the Noise

Available on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube. Follow and support her work — she’s having the conversations corporate workers need to hear.