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In this episode, Ron and Kristin don’t just explore leadership—they dive headfirst into the world of power, influence, and how a few mic’d-up men with cigars and bourbon reshaped American politics.

Known as the Pod Bros, these influential podcasters became a powerful force during the last presidential election cycle. They interviewed nearly every major conservative candidate, including Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, and several individuals now rumored to be in the future Trump cabinet.

Their massive audiences took notice when most major Democratic candidates declined to appear—except for Bernie Sanders. The absence was loud, and the impact undeniable.

This episode wraps up with key leadership takeaways from this modern media phenomenon. Don’t miss this compelling and timely conversation.

Sources: 4Ward Operations; https://www.ft.com/content/9f2be125-ba1b-4062-ab2d-4b2977db20b0 presentation: https://www.reddit.com/r/FriendsofthePod/comments/1jlez1p/article_about_the_pod_bros/

Co-hosts: Ron Ward and Kristin Sokoloff
Sponsor: 4Ward Operations
Producer: Stephen Ridley
Facebook Group Administrator: Cassy Roop

Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast takes both a humorous and intense look at leadership through impactful stories, answers to listener questions, and breakdowns of dirty lessons from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".

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