What if the greatest lessons in leadership, communication, and emotional intelligence don't come from a classroom, but from life's most difficult experiences?

In this first of a two-part conversation, Kim Olver welcomes emotional intelligence expert Dr. Beth DeAngelis to explore how personal challenges shape who we become and why curiosity may be one of the most important skills we can develop.

After the sudden loss of her husband, Beth found herself asking a question that would ultimately define her life's work: How do we use our emotions as information rather than allowing them to control us?

Together, Kim and Beth discuss:

• Why emotional intelligence is built through lived experience
• The difference between knowing something and truly living it
• Why curiosity is a critical leadership skill
• Building trust through authentic communication
• How technology affects connection and presence
• Developing a growth mindset in a rapidly changing world
• Why flexibility may be one of today's most valuable life skills

Beth also shares an early look at her upcoming book, Love Scaled: How We Live with More Love at Work and Home, and introduces the powerful question that inspired it:

"How do we scale love?"

If you've ever wondered how difficult experiences can become your greatest teachers, this conversation is for you.

This is Part 1 of a two-part interview.