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What if understanding why you behaved the way you did could help you stop punishing yourself for it?
In Part 2 of Kim's conversation with therapist and The Narrative Method founder Shari Foos, they explore self-forgiveness, storytelling, creativity, and what becomes possible when we look at our past behavior with curiosity instead of condemnation.
Kim shares a Mental Freedom® perspective that every person is doing the best they know to get what they want in that moment. That doesn't mean every behavior is helpful or that harmful behavior should be excused. It means that when we understand what we were trying to accomplish or what need we were attempting to satisfy, we may be able to replace judgment with understanding and make different choices today.
Shari connects this idea to The Narrative Method, where storytelling and creative writing can help people externalize their experiences and notice patterns they may have difficulty seeing when they're busy criticizing themselves. Rather than asking, “What's wrong with me?” we can become curious about what was happening inside us and what we might do differently now.
Shari also introduces several concepts from The Narrative Method, including relational mindfulness, radical gratitude, kaleidoscoping, upgrading, narrative awe, and the “rocket ship”—the idea that even a tiny change in trajectory can eventually take us somewhere very different.
Kim and Shari also discuss something important to both of their approaches: forgiveness should never be forced. Forgiveness may be liberating, but readiness matters, and no one else gets to decide when—or whether—you are ready.
Key TakeawayUnderstanding why you behaved as you did doesn't erase consequences or excuse harm. It can help you stop using your past as evidence against yourself. You can understand the person you were, take responsibility where needed, and choose differently with the knowledge and skills you have today.
You don't have to transform everything at once. Sometimes changing your trajectory by one small degree is enough to begin moving toward something different.
To register to attend a free salon, visit Free Online Writing Salons & Community | The Narrative Method or email Shari at [email protected].
What happens when the culture surrounding us becomes so loud that we lose touch with who we actually are?
In this first half of Kim's conversation with therapist and The Narrative Method founder Shari Foos, they explore what Shari calls the “cult of culture”—the constant stream of social pressure, media messages, consumerism, comparison, and unrealistic expectations that can pull us away from our authentic selves.
Shari and Kim discuss the growing gap between people's mental health needs and the support available to them, including financial barriers, stigma, and a lack of understanding about mental health. But Shari suggests there is another powerful force at work: a culture that continually tells us how we're supposed to look, behave, think, and live.
They explore how these messages can begin early in life, teaching us to compare our families, bodies, possessions, and lives to idealized images. Social media has intensified that pressure, creating a world in which we can appear more connected than ever while still feeling unseen, unheard, and disconnected from ourselves.
Shari also introduces The Narrative Method and its free online salons, where participants respond to writing prompts and share their work without criticism, advice, compliments, or correction. Instead, others simply witness and listen. The goal isn't to become a better writer. It's to create enough safety to quiet the inner critic, access creativity, hear your own voice, and experience genuine human connection.
Kim and Shari also explore the role fear plays in limiting creativity and self-expression, why boredom may be more valuable than we've come to believe, and how small shifts in awareness can help us reconnect with ourselves and enjoy our lives more fully.
Key TakeawayWhen we're constantly surrounded by messages telling us who we're supposed to be, it can become difficult to hear our own voice. Creating space for introspection, creativity, authentic expression, and genuine human connection can help us rediscover who we are beneath the noise.
Join Kim next week for Part 2 of this heartfelt conversation with Shari Foos about mental health, connection, and what it means to be fully human.
Have you ever described a student, employee, teenager, or even yourself as “unmotivated”?
What if the problem isn’t motivation at all?
In this episode of Life = Choices, Choices = Life, Kim Olver challenges the idea that people are simply unmotivated. Drawing on Choice Theory®, Kim explains that behavior is purposeful. People continually behave in ways they believe will help them get something they want to satisfy one or more of their needs.
That doesn’t mean every behavior is effective or makes sense to someone watching from the outside. But from the inside, there is a purpose.
A student who avoids an assignment may be highly motivated to avoid embarrassment because they don’t understand the material. A teenager who appears unconcerned about a grade may be more motivated to maintain their standing with friends. A child disrupting a classroom may be attempting to experience significance, connection, freedom, or joy.
Instead of labeling someone “unmotivated,” Kim suggests asking two very different questions: Unmotivated for what? What are they motivated toward instead?
Those questions invite curiosity rather than judgment.
Kim also explores why external control can be so tempting when another person’s motivation doesn’t align with ours. Rewards, punishments, threats, grades, calls to parents, and removal of privileges may sometimes produce compliance, but compliance and learning aren’t synonymous.
Drawing on William Glasser’s approach to quality education, Kim discusses how relationships, relevance, needs satisfaction, meaningful choices, and reasonable expectations can create conditions that better support learning.
She also turns the Mental Freedom® lens toward the person doing the teaching. When someone doesn’t do what we desperately want them to do, we can create stories about what their behavior means: I’m failing as a teacher. My child doesn’t respect me. They don’t care. They should know better.
Separating what happened from the story we tell ourselves about what happened can help us move away from frustration and control and toward curiosity and influence.
In this episode, Kim discusses:The next time you’re tempted to say, “They’re just not motivated,” add two words: “For what?” Then ask, “What are they motivated toward instead?”
What happens when you care deeply about helping someone learn, but they simply aren’t engaging?
In this episode of Life = Choices, Choices = Life, Kim Olver explores one of the most frustrating truths in education, parenting, coaching, supervision, and relationships:
You can teach someone, but you can’t make them learn.
Kim explains the difference between teaching and learning, why trying harder to control another person can actually move us away from influence, and how Choice Theory® offers a more effective way to think about motivation and responsibility.
Rather than asking, “How do I make them learn?” Kim encourages us to ask a different question: What conditions can I help create that will make learning more likely?
That shift opens the door to looking at the relationship, relevance, respect, meaningful choice, fear of failure, competing needs, and the many factors that affect whether someone is ready to engage.
Kim also explores why compliance is not the same as learning. A person may complete an assignment, follow instructions, or produce the behavior we want because of pressure, rewards, or consequences, but that doesn’t necessarily mean real learning has taken place. Real learning requires participation.
It happens when the learner thinks about the information, questions it, connects it to something they already know, tests it, applies it, and makes it their own.
The same principle applies outside the classroom. You may know exactly what would help your adult child. You may have advice that could save a friend months of heartache. You may explain something to your partner and wonder why they don’t see what seems obvious to you.
But caring doesn't give us control.
Sometimes the most respectful thing we can do is offer what we know, create the best conditions we can, and allow the other person the agency to decide what to do with it.
In this episode, Kim discusses:You can teach. You can encourage. You can influence. You can invite. But learning? That belongs to them.
What if the most important thing schools can teach students isn't more information, but how to think about the information they encounter?
In Part 2 of Kim Olver's conversation with Dr. Ed Dunkelblau, they explore how social-emotional learning is evolving to meet the challenges students face in today's world.
Ed introduces SECD 2.0, an expanded approach to social, emotional, and character development that goes beyond traditional SEL competencies to include purpose, curiosity, and healthy skepticism.
With information available at our fingertips and young people constantly exposed to social media, influencers, pundits, politicians, and competing claims, students need more than the ability to absorb information. They need to know how to evaluate it, question its accuracy, consider who is delivering it, recognize potential agendas, and think for themselves.
Kim and Ed also explore the complexity of ethics and values. What happens when two important values conflict? Is honesty always more important than kindness? What happens when loyalty conflicts with accountability? Their conversation demonstrates why character development can't simply be reduced to a list of values students are expected to follow.
They also discuss the connection between social-emotional and character development and Mental Freedom®. Ed explains how greater self-awareness, empathy, decision-making, purpose, and curiosity can expand a person's ability to make intentional choices and reduce the barriers to Mental Freedom.
And what would happen if educators developed these same competencies themselves? Kim and Ed imagine schools where educators are better able to connect with students, understand their experiences, model emotional intelligence, and create environments where students can learn to think rather than simply learn information.
Connect with Dr. Ed Dunkelblau:
Website: teacheq.com
Email: [email protected]
What happens when students develop strong social-emotional skills without an equally strong ethical compass?
In this episode of Life = Choices, Choices = Life, Kim Olver welcomes back Dr. Ed Dunkelblau, internationally recognized expert in social-emotional learning (SEL), safe schools, character development, and humor in education.
Ed explains the five core areas of social-emotional learning and why SEL matters not only for academic success, but also for relationships, behavior, decision-making, and emotional well-being.
Kim and Ed then move beyond traditional SEL to explore social, emotional, and character development (SECD). Having strong social-emotional skills doesn't necessarily mean those skills will be used well. Character and ethics can provide the internal compass that helps determine how our interpersonal skills are applied.
Their conversation also explores the changing ways young people communicate, the growing role and ethical use of artificial intelligence in schools, cultural differences in values, and the role parents and communities can play in determining which values schools seek to nurture.
What happens when people agree that honesty and family loyalty are both important but disagree about which should take priority? Kim shares a personal family story illustrating why conversations about values can become much more complicated than simply deciding which values are “good.”
This is Part 1 of Kim's conversation with Dr. Ed Dunkelblau about social-emotional learning, character, ethics, values, and what education can prepare young people for beyond academic achievement.
Sometimes the clearest way to understand something is to understand what it isn't.
Mental Freedom® is not positive thinking. It isn't blaming yourself for what happens to you. It isn't controlling your emotions, controlling other people, or striving for perfection.
In this episode, I clear away five common misconceptions about Mental Freedom and explain what this work is purposely designed to help us do.
Mental Freedom doesn't ask us to deny pain or replace every difficult thought with a positive one. Instead, it invites us to become curious—to notice, question, and understand what's happening within us so we can respond more intentionally.
We explore:
Mental Freedom isn't about becoming flawless. It's about becoming more intentional, more aware, more compassionate, more willing to pause, and more willing to learn.
We usually can't control what happens to us. But we can learn to consciously choose how we respond to what happens next.
And sometimes, that changes everything.
Ready to Experience Mental Freedom?Reading about Mental Freedom is valuable. Listening to podcasts is valuable. But transformation happens through practice.
The Mental Freedom Experience is designed to help you move beyond understanding these ideas and begin applying them in your everyday life.
Visit MentalFreedom.net and look under the Experience tab to learn more.
Is it positive thinking? Emotional control? A way to avoid painful feelings? Or simply Choice Theory with a different name?
The answer is no.
In this episode, I explain what Mental Freedom really is, where it came from, and why I developed it after nearly 30 years of work as a counselor, coach, trainer, and educator.
Choice Theory, developed by Dr. William Glasser, is one of the strongest foundations of Mental Freedom, but it isn't the entire framework. Mental Freedom also integrates insights from trauma-informed care, emotional intelligence, neuroscience, coaching, human behavior, and decades of practical experience.
At the heart of Mental Freedom is one central question:
How can people reduce unnecessary psychological suffering and create more influence over their own lives?
I define Mental Freedom as the ability to remain emotionally grounded when life doesn't go your way, so you can respond intentionally instead of reacting automatically.
In this episode, you'll explore:
Mental Freedom doesn't promise that life will always go your way. People will disappoint you. Relationships may change. Difficult and painful things will happen.
What Mental Freedom offers is the possibility that even when you can't control what happens, you can increase your influence over how you respond and who you become because of it.
The next time something doesn't go your way, consider asking yourself:
What response would move me toward the person I most want to become?
Because Mental Freedom isn't about getting a different life.
It's about becoming a different person within the life you already have.
Learn More About Mental Freedom®Visit MentalFreedom.net to explore the Mental Freedom Experience and other opportunities to learn and practice Mental Freedom.
In Part 2 of my conversation with Dr. Marcella Finnerty and Dr. Shu-Han Huang, we go deeper into how Mental Freedom® translates across cultures and what happens when women begin recognizing choices they may never have realized were available to them.
Shu-Han shares an important insight from her work with Taiwanese women. While I often teach that moving from “I have to” to “I want to” can restore a sense of freedom, “I choose to” may actually feel more empowering in some collectivistic and paternalistic cultures. That observation was so important that I incorporated it into the updated Mental Freedom curriculum.
Marcella shares what she witnessed among women in Ireland and the Middle East, including participants navigating displacement and armed conflict. For some, Mental Freedom wasn't about changing an extraordinarily difficult external reality. It was about finding the internal freedom to decide how they wanted to respond within that reality.
Together, we explore:
One of my favorite ideas from this conversation comes from Marcella, who describes what she observed as a “longing for agency.”
That longing isn't limited to women, one culture, or one part of the world. We all want to know that even when we can't control what happens around us, we still have some influence over what happens within us.
Missed Part 1?Listen to Part 1 of my conversation with Marcella and Shu-Han here:
https://player.captivate.fm/episode/8c1a05c7-d006-47ce-bf25-9f560032d350/
Connect with Marcella FinnertyEmail: [email protected]
Connect with Dr. Shu-Han HuangLinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/shu-han-huang/
Email: [email protected]
Learn More About Mental Freedom®Visit MentalFreedom.net to learn about the Mental Freedom Experience and other ways to explore and practice Mental Freedom.
Can a framework for reducing unnecessary psychological suffering work across different cultures?
In Part 1 of this special conversation, Kim Olver welcomes newly certified Mental Freedom® facilitators Dr. Marcella Finnerty from Ireland and Dr. Shu-han Huang, originally from Taiwan, to discuss their experiences leading Mental Freedom Experiences with women in very different cultural settings.
Together they explore:
You'll also hear how participants in Ireland, Taiwan, and the Middle East responded to concepts like choice, responsibility, and emotional freedom.
If you've ever wondered whether Mental Freedom is simply another Western personal-growth model—or whether it speaks to something more universal—this conversation is a fascinating place to begin.
Join us next week for Part 2 as the discussion continues.
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Can Mental Freedom® work across cultures?
In Part 1 of this conversation, Kim Olver is joined by Dr. Marcella Finnerty and Dr. Shu-han Huang to discuss how women in Ireland, Taiwan, and the Middle East experienced the Mental Freedom framework—and what surprised them most along the way.
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