E-Coffee with Experts

How This Technical SEO Founder Built Long-Term Trust With Google


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In this episode of E-Coffee with Experts, we sit down with Steven Jaenke, CEO of Digimark, to unpack how SEO has evolved from early Google algorithms to today’s AI-driven search landscape.


He shares his unconventional journey, from nursing to building websites in the late 90s, surviving major Google updates like Google Penguin, and scaling an SEO agency through strategic pivots.


We dive deep into why following Google’s guidelines still matters, how SEO pricing mistakes nearly stalled growth, and why chasing high-volume keywords too early can hurt businesses.


The conversation explores how AI overviews, ChatGPT, and Gemini are reshaping search behavior, making traditional SEO metrics like traffic and rankings increasingly misleading.


Steven explains why attribution, brand influence, and original content are becoming the real competitive advantages, and how agencies must adapt their content and technical strategies to stay visible inside LLMs.


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In this episode, we discuss:


00:00 – 01:00: Introduction

01:00 – 03:05: How Steve got into SEO

03:05 – 04:30: Starting Digimark and early growth

04:30 – 06:10: The Google update that changed everything

06:10 – 08:30: Balancing nursing, work, and agency life

08:30 – 10:00: Early pricing mistakes and lessons learned

10:00 – 12:10: A standout client success story

12:10 – 14:00: Why high-volume keywords don’t work early

14:00 – 16:10: SEO metrics that are becoming meaningless

16:10 – 18:20: How AI is changing search behaviour

18:20 – 19:40: Brand visibility over rankings in AI era

19:40 – 21:30: Content strategy when clicks disappear

21:30 – 23:00: Client expectations after AI overviews

23:00 – 24:30: SEO predictions for 2026

24:30 – 26:01: Final Thoughts


 Connect with Steven Jaenke


 https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-jaenke/

 https://www.digimark.com.au/


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