Today Jay "The Butcher" Fleischman stopped by The Lab to share his podcast journey that started back in 2005. What separated Jay from his peers? He was a visionary and could see the impact podcasting was starting to have on his career. Jay began to vocalize the changes taking place in the bankruptcy industry in 2005 and got the attention of higher ups throughout the organization. Then came the speaking gigs, tech inquires, and interviews. Fast forward to present day and business is BOOMING. But it didn't happen the way you'd think...