Wildfire devastated a large part of Southern California in January, 2025.

Having just moved into one of the communities impacted, Jenn found herself leading through crisis. In this episode, Tim ask Jenn to reflect on what she learned during those days.

As they close their series of conversations on calling, Tim and Jenn clarify the differences between calling and assignment, discuss their own experiences with calling and explore Parker Palmer’s idea of letting your life speak.

Show notes:

Let Your Life Speak: Listening for the Voice of Vocation by Parker Palmer

Falling Upward: A Spirituality for the Two Halves of Life by Richard Rohr

Jenn and Tim continue a conversation about calling inside and outside of the church with their friends Nekia Allen and Alexander James about the nature of calling.

If you missed part 1, you are really going to want to check that out!

Nekia Allen is a Traveling Private Chef, Bridgebuilder, Mentor, and Consultant. She works as the Operations Administrator for The Nonprofit Plug, an organization focused on helping people launch community-impacting non-profits. Nekia is big on discipleship both in the church and in the kitchen and serves as a staff pastor at Lighthouse 805 church in Ventura, CA. You can follow her on Instagram @chefnekia and book her to cook for you at ⁠chefnekia.com⁠.

Alexander James is a seasoned pastor, youth strategist, and poet with 15 years of ministry experience. As the Discipleship Pastor at Friends Church in Orange CA, Alexander oversees new member onboarding, life groups, and biblical education. His dynamic speaking connects deeply with audiences, and his poetry reflects his passion for authentic expression. You can follow Alexander @bhonest_, AND make sure to pick up a copy of his book, "Just Be Honest: a poetic invitation to liberation"

Jenn and Tim have a conversation with their friends Nekia Allen and Alexander James about the nature of calling. They explore what calling looks like both inside and outside of church spaces and how to live authentically as oneself wherever God calls you.

Nekia Allen is a Traveling Private Chef, Bridgebuilder, Mentor, and Consultant. She works as the Operations Administrator for The Nonprofit Plug, an organization focused on helping people launch community-impacting non-profits. Nekia is big on discipleship both in the church and in the kitchen and serves as a staff pastor at Lighthouse 805 church in Ventura, CA. You can follow her on Instagram @chefnekia and book her to cook for you at chefnekia.com.

Alexander James is a seasoned pastor, youth strategist, and poet with 15 years of ministry experience. As the Discipleship Pastor at Friends Church in Orange CA, Alexander oversees new member onboarding, life groups, and biblical education. His dynamic speaking connects deeply with audiences, and his poetry reflects his passion for authentic expression. You can follow Alexander @bhonest_, AND make sure to pick up a copy of his book, "Just Be Honest: a poetic invitation to liberation"

What is a calling? Who gets to be called? What if we're talking about calling the wrong way?

Jennifer and Tim are back to kick off a series of conversations about this important, and sometimes misunderstood topic.

This episode was recorded on September 5th, 2024; the day after a shooting in Georgia that took the lives of four people.

We hope this conversation will serve you as a helpful resource for thinking about how Jesus would invite His people to respond to the violence in our world.