“Everything, from conversations to automobiles, stand on the design of an experience. For the past 20 years, Hiromi Matsumoto has been the architect of hundreds of such experiences for large corporations like 3M and grassroots projects like Smartthings. 

Today he weaves and pulls the threads of these experiences in a podcast that tells the stories of entrepreneurs who have reached elusive heights."

Direct link to Scott Aaron episode: https://link.chtbl.com/_W67zaU5