In this episode of The Alchemy Podcast, host Doug Cartwright sits down with Corey Clark (aka The Sales Therapist), Founder of The Collective and a licensed therapist working at the intersection of sales performance and emotional health. Together, they unpack why so many high performers secretly struggle with rejection, shame, avoidance, and identity confusion and how “mask-off” vulnerability, values-based living, and emotional capacity can radically change your relationships, leadership, and results. They also dig into modern vices (porn, nicotine, gambling, phones), why community accelerates healing, and how both Doug and Corey are evolving beyond “door-to-door” into deeper identity and leadership work.



Timestamps of Key Moments

04:12 - Why Corey moved from sales training to deeper mindset + emotional capacity work

08:05 - Corey’s origin story: door-to-door while in undergrad/grad school, graduating debt-free

12:10 - The hidden toll of rejection: “being unwanted” 150+ times a day and emotional exhaustion

16:40 - The core trap: tying worth to performance—and what shifts when identity changes

21:05 - Values-based living: why defining your true values is the foundation of self-respect

26:18 - Doug’s core value of “depth” and how real vulnerability creates real connection

31:30 - Masks, fear of opening up, and why men stay closed off after heartbreak or betrayal

36:55 - The avoidance pattern: quick anger, disconnection, and the “vice cycle” 

42:08 - Emotional capacity 101: unpleasant emotions aren’t “bad” they’re information and protection

47:22 - Community vs 1:1 work: why retreats create “accelerated change” and group healing

54:10 - What’s next for 2026: Corey’s identity-focused brand shift + Doug’s elite mastermind model and pricing tiers

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