On this episode Abadesi talks to Ethan Eismann, VP of Design at Slack. He has previously worked on flagship products at Google, Uber, and Airbnb, as well as at Adobe back when Flash was still a thing!

In this episode they talk about...

* The consumerization of the enterprise and bringing personality to software.

* The design philosophy at Slack and how they use hypotheses in designing their products.

* Customer-centric design and what it means to communicate energy as well as information.

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