This week we sit down with Cecil Pineda to talk about building real community in cybersecurity, vendor relationships that actually work, and how to avoid being that annoying sales person calling every Monday.

George K and George A talk to Cecil about:

🛠️ Why technical operations experience matters for CISOs

☝️ The art of "bothering someone" (yes, there is an art to it!)

💡 His advice for vendors trying to break through

✅ How his team evaluates new tech 

Plus we get into what it really takes to build authentic relationships in this industry. Spoiler: It's not about automating thousands of emails!

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