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Most eCom founders dream of getting into retail.
Very few understand how the game actually works.
Today’s guest is Connor McPherson, founder of Icon Outreach — the team that has opened 30,000+ retail doors for 42+ brands, securing launches with Walmart, Target, Costco, Kroger, Tesco, Woolworths, Coles, and more.
Connor helps modern DTC brands turn retail from a risky guessing game into a repeatable growth channel. In this episode, he breaks down what retailers actually look for, why most brands fail on shelf, and how to build a retail strategy that works long term.
What You’ll Learn:
🔥 How to know if your brand is actually ready for retail (and which retailers to target)
🔥 The real economics of retail — margins, trade spend, payment terms, and cash flow risk
🔥 Why most DTC brands fail on shelf — and how to avoid costly launch mistakes
🔥 How buyers think, what they care about, and how to pitch them properly
🔥 What it really takes to get on shelf and stay there
🔥 How to use retail to build brand, distribution, and long-term enterprise value
If you want to turn your DTC brand into a real retail powerhouse — not just land a flashy launch — this episode is for you.
Chapters:
00:00 – Why most eCom brands fail at retail
01:55 – Is your brand actually right for retail?
03:08 – Choosing the right retailers (Walmart vs niche)
03:58 – Pricing, pack formats & unit economics
04:54 – Cash flow realities & funding large POs
05:44 – Which product categories win in retail
07:16 – Why retail packaging makes or breaks brands
08:58 – Retail margins & payment terms explained
12:54 – How retailers judge performance (resets & cutoffs)
14:49 – One retailer vs mass rollout strategy
15:27 – How brands actually get into major retailers
17:40 – Realistic timelines from outreach to shelf
18:59 – What retail buyers care about most today
22:38 – What happens in buyer meetings & pitch calls
24:52 – Negotiating terms with big retailers
27:52 – What happens after you get the “yes”
30:51 – How brands expand doors & shelf space
33:55 – Driving traffic to retail stores
38:14 – How retail increases brand value & exit potential
By Brand BuildersMost eCom founders dream of getting into retail.
Very few understand how the game actually works.
Today’s guest is Connor McPherson, founder of Icon Outreach — the team that has opened 30,000+ retail doors for 42+ brands, securing launches with Walmart, Target, Costco, Kroger, Tesco, Woolworths, Coles, and more.
Connor helps modern DTC brands turn retail from a risky guessing game into a repeatable growth channel. In this episode, he breaks down what retailers actually look for, why most brands fail on shelf, and how to build a retail strategy that works long term.
What You’ll Learn:
🔥 How to know if your brand is actually ready for retail (and which retailers to target)
🔥 The real economics of retail — margins, trade spend, payment terms, and cash flow risk
🔥 Why most DTC brands fail on shelf — and how to avoid costly launch mistakes
🔥 How buyers think, what they care about, and how to pitch them properly
🔥 What it really takes to get on shelf and stay there
🔥 How to use retail to build brand, distribution, and long-term enterprise value
If you want to turn your DTC brand into a real retail powerhouse — not just land a flashy launch — this episode is for you.
Chapters:
00:00 – Why most eCom brands fail at retail
01:55 – Is your brand actually right for retail?
03:08 – Choosing the right retailers (Walmart vs niche)
03:58 – Pricing, pack formats & unit economics
04:54 – Cash flow realities & funding large POs
05:44 – Which product categories win in retail
07:16 – Why retail packaging makes or breaks brands
08:58 – Retail margins & payment terms explained
12:54 – How retailers judge performance (resets & cutoffs)
14:49 – One retailer vs mass rollout strategy
15:27 – How brands actually get into major retailers
17:40 – Realistic timelines from outreach to shelf
18:59 – What retail buyers care about most today
22:38 – What happens in buyer meetings & pitch calls
24:52 – Negotiating terms with big retailers
27:52 – What happens after you get the “yes”
30:51 – How brands expand doors & shelf space
33:55 – Driving traffic to retail stores
38:14 – How retail increases brand value & exit potential