PAC Talk with Pieter Vodden

How to Measure Wins On (and Off) The Scale


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In this episode of Pac Talk, Pieter and Emylee Vodden share the real metrics that matter when it comes to progress—beyond just the number on the scale. After working with 75 people over a six-week challenge, Pieter and Emylee Vodden, reflects on what actually leads to meaningful transformation. From energy levels and mood to sleep, hunger cues, and performance, this episode helps you redefine what a “win” looks like. Plus, they break down six essential habits for long-term success, and explores how accountability, courage, and freedom play a role in staying consistent—even when motivation dips.


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