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Map the Deep Sea to protect what we don't yet understand. In this episode, Andrew Lewin speaks with Tim Kearns from Map the Gaps, a global initiative working to close the knowledge gap beneath the waves. With over 75% of the seafloor still unmapped in high resolution, the ocean remains Earth's final frontier—and unlocking its secrets is essential for biodiversity, disaster planning, and climate action.
Ocean mapping is more than bathymetry. It's a tool for social justice, environmental stewardship, and informed decision-making. Tim shares how Map the Gaps supports small island nations, Indigenous communities, and global science efforts through collaboration and cutting-edge technology. From an exploration policy perspective, this conversation makes a clear case: mapping the deep sea is the foundation for a sustainable ocean future.
Website: https://www.mapthegaps.org/
Map the Gaps Website: https://www.mapthegaps.org/symposium
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Ocean Books can do more than entertain—they can inspire action, hope, and a fresh way of thinking about climate change. In this episode, Todd Medema introduces his new novel, How to Surf a Hurricane, a solarpunk heist that imagines a near-future world adapting to climate change. Todd and Andrew Lewin explore how fiction can shift the narrative from doom to determination, showing how communities can come together to protect nature and build a better future.
Solarpunk climate fiction takes center stage in the second half of the conversation. Todd shares his journey from clean energy and political advocacy to storytelling, describing the writing process, the publishing hurdles, and how his background shaped the world he built. This episode is for anyone who wants to see climate action through a more creative, hopeful lens.
Website: https://howtosurfahurricane.com/
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Coffee and the environment are deeply intertwined, yet few consumers realize just how damaging the coffee industry can be. In this episode, Etelle Higonnet, a Yale-trained human rights lawyer and founder of Coffee Watch, joins Andrew to explore the environmental and human rights crises associated with global coffee production. From deforestation and toxic chemical use to plastic waste and ocean pollution, Etelle reveals the harsh truths behind one of the world's most beloved beverages.
Coffee certification myths are also exposed. Etelle shares how popular labels often fail to guarantee living wages or sustainable farming practices. Together, they explore powerful, practical ways coffee drinkers can become changemakers—from choosing better beans to advocating for stronger policies. This is a must-listen for anyone who wants their habits to align with ocean conservation and climate justice.
Website: https://coffeewatch.org/
Take Action: https://coffeewatch.org/stories-of-hope/
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Plastic foam pollution continues to be a widespread and dangerous threat to ocean health. In this episode of How to Protect the Ocean, Oceana's Christy Leavitt breaks down their 2025 report exposing the true environmental cost of expanded polystyrene foam (EPS) used in foodware across the US. With shocking statistics and real-life examples, Christy explains how foam harms marine ecosystems, why it's rarely recycled, and how local and national bans are gaining momentum.
Plastic pollution solutions begin with better policies, informed choices, and collective action. Christy walks us through Oceana's campaign victories, the data behind foam bans, and how individuals can help push corporations and governments to make the switch to reusable and compostable alternatives. Whether you're a policymaker, a concerned citizen, or someone just learning about this issue, this episode will give you clear actions to take and hope for change.
Link to report: https://usa.oceana.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2025/04/2025-Foam-Report-FINAL.pdf
Link to Oceana: https://usa.oceana.org/
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Shark Week 2025 opened with a spectacle that left many conservationists and shark advocates frustrated. The premiere episode, Dancing With Sharks, featured handlers hugging, hand-feeding, and even riding sharks—behaviors that distort shark biology and promote a dangerous misunderstanding of these wild animals. In this episode, we examine how the use of tonic immobility and forced interactions undermines shark conservation and sends the wrong message to the public.
Shark conservation deserves better than spectacle. Instead of relying on shock-value stunts, media like Shark Week should highlight real science, elevate expert voices, and promote respectful interactions with apex predators. We explore how better storytelling can change public perception and help build a future where sharks are protected, not exploited.
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How to Protect Sharks isn't just about banning shark finning or posting awareness videos. It's about understanding what really works—supporting science-based policies, enforcing marine protected areas, backing local researchers, and stopping the spread of misinformation. In this episode, we clear up the confusion around shark conservation and focus on the actions that actually make a difference.
Shark conservation efforts must move beyond clickbait and into impact. From choosing ethical shark tourism operators to pushing for sustainable fishing reforms, this episode walks you through the most effective ways to help sharks and their ecosystems survive. Whether you're a diver, educator, or ocean advocate, you'll learn how to avoid the noise and support shark conservation that's grounded in science and ethics.
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How Marine Conservation Works is the foundation for protecting our oceans, but it's often misunderstood. In this episode, we break down how marine conservation really happens—from grassroots community efforts and local fisheries management to scientific input and national policies. You'll learn why effective conservation requires more than just good intentions—it takes collaboration, long-term planning, and strong social and political support.
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Texas Flood 2025 revealed just how urgently we need smarter tools in disaster response. In this episode, Dave Jones, founder of StormCenter Communications, explains how his team used satellite imagery and real-time mapping to support emergency responders during the catastrophic floods. Their data helped identify stranded residents, blocked roads, and the areas most in need—turning science into life-saving action.
Satellite technology for disaster response is revolutionizing real-time crisis management. Dave shares how open-access Earth observation data, localized GIS tools, and close coordination with emergency services are building more resilient communities as climate change amplifies flood risks.
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Conservation is about collaboration, and collaboration is what we are discussing today.
Ocean collaboration is at the heart of many conservation success stories, but what happens when it breaks down? In this episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast, host Andrew Lewin talks with Bart Oor, the founder of Balean, a platform created to support independent ocean conservationists by giving them the funding, structure, and digital tools to succeed. They dive into the barriers many changemakers face when working outside of traditional institutional channels and how a lack of communication and community support often holds back ocean progress.
Balean's mission is to foster a decentralized, human-centered support network for ocean missions. Bart shares how his background in engineering led him to build Balean as a solution to the gaps he witnessed in ocean collaboration. This episode also reflects on Andrew and Bart's own partnership and how aligned values and open communication can shape stronger ocean solutions. Whether you're an early-career marine conservationist or a funder looking to empower grassroots initiatives, this conversation is a powerful call to action.
Website: https://www.balean.org/
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Orca Allokelping is the newly documented behavior where southern resident killer whales use bull kelp as a tool to rub against each other—possibly to remove dead skin and soothe irritation. Captured via drone, this social spa-like behavior, known as allokelping, reveals a rare example of cooperative tool use in the wild. Scientists believe it serves both physical and social functions, strengthening bonds within pods and supporting skin health.
Kelp grooming is more than just orca hygiene. It highlights the intelligence and cultural complexity of these endangered whales. The discovery comes with a reminder: kelp forests and Chinook salmon are essential for these behaviors to continue. As habitat and food sources decline, so too may the traditions that define this population. This episode breaks down the science behind the behavior and why it matters for conservation.
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