With growing numbers of people crossing the channel in small boats and the backlog of asylum claims at record levels, immigration has become a key issue for a government whose approach to fixing the system has favoured rhetoric over results. For the cover story of our April issue, David Normington, former permanent secretary for the home office from 2006-2010, and May Bulman, investigations editor at Lighthouse Reports, discuss how the government could solve the immigration crisis. They join deputy editor Ellen Halliday on the podcast.

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