There’s a lot of reasons to love running your own business. But chances are, extra free time isn’t one of them.

Most entrepreneurs feel like they have to work crazy hours. And with a whole team depending on them, it’s hard to ever get away for a vacation.

Jay Owen can relate. Jay is an author, podcaster and business owner. Design Extensions, the company he runs, has grown 21 years in a row. And yet, this last year Jay took a 30-day vacation.

This week on the Thrive Collective Podcast, Jay sits down with Rob to share how he did it and how you too can enjoy time off without sacrificing your business.