(0:24) This is officially a rock climbing podcast

(8:15) Andrew and Sean's gardens have attracted guests

(12:59) Sean lowkey needs another break

(25:10) Miscreants is doing a collection drop at DEFCON

(29:56) Rebranding is like creating a religion but without Kool-Aid

Thanks for listening to Small Efforts, a podcast collaboration between Krit and Miscreants. Shoutout to the Hatch Team and Mary Vuong for producing and editing.

Links:

• Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskins
• Andrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/
• Chartkit: https://www.chartkit.io/
• Krit: https://www.krit.com/ 
• Miscreants: https://www.miscreants.co/ 
• Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsun
• Hatch Team: https://www.hatch.team/

For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.