Well England have fallen at the first three hurdles and are 3-0 down with two Tests to go. So maybe this podcast can be filed away and listened to in four years time. Except that Goughie speaks to former South Africa coach Mickey Arthur who talks about why losing in Australia helped them get into a position to win.

Former South African fast bowler Dale Steyn explains why every player needs to play their part to achieve success and Editor of the Wisden Almanack and Daily Mail cricket writer Lawrence Booth, speaking before a ball had been bowled, is scarily accurate about what he thought might end up happening.

Either way listen and enjoy as Goughie tries to find out what England can learn from opposing teams who've gone to Australia and been successful.

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