Hilary Rogers began her career in publishing. As a Commissioning Editor, Hilary helped co-create many of Australia's most beloved series, including Billie B Brown, Real Pigeons, Zac Power and Go Girl. As an author, Hilary has teamed up with friend and much-loved Australian author, Meredith Badger.

Together, Meredith and Hilary write under the pen name Maddy Mara. Their most recent series include The Dragon Girls, an international hit with more than 1.5 a million copies in print, also Itty Bitty Kitty, and the series we've come to chat about today, Dragon Games.

We chat about the pros and cons of writing with a partner. Plus, Rory H Mather is back in the segment we call What's the story, Rory?