Founder of I&A Communications and Young Voices Contributor, Iulia Lupse, joins the Jeff Kennedy Show to chat with Monica and Casey regarding her op-ed: "How Trade Schools Can Beat a Four-Year Degree". Iulia goes over the long-held assumption that a four-year college degree is the only ticket to success, and how she feels that is not the case. Student loan debt is now over $1.7 trillion, and Iulia talks how this growing financial burden changed how younger generations think about college. Vocational programs often cost less and take less time, yet they still face stigma. Iulia discusses what needs to change in how we talk to high school students about their post-graduation options.