Today we hear two stories that give us an insight into how Unions fit into ordinary workers lives. In the first we hear from Heidi, a plumber, who I met on May Day celebrations as she outlines her journey into a trade and her changing view on the role of unions in her working life. We then move to an interview with Martin Murphy, a CFMEU steward, as he outlines a serious incident and how the Union worked for a better outcome for the affected workers.