The Pioneer Institute is out with a new book, "Hands-On Achievement: Massachusetts' National Model Vocational-Technical Schools," which finds that vocational-technical high schools have lower dropout rates and on-par test scores with traditional high schools.

The Boston-based think tank also makes the case that these high-performing schools in Massachusetts should serve as a national model, both to address the student loan crisis and a shortage of skilled labor in America.

Joining us on "The Daily Signal Podcast" are Jamie Gass, Pioneer Institute's director of the Center for School Reform, and David Ferreira, a former vocational-technical school administrator and teacher who edited "Hands-On Achievement."

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Listen to the podcast or read the lightly edited transcript at DailySignal.com.

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