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I was lying awake in the middle of the night last night worrying about the current coup dismantling our institutions in the US, and realized: There are probably so many other people loosing sleep with me right now. All of our hearts are racing. We each feel powerless. It made me feel better enough to sleep. This morning Vas and I were talking and we realized we needed to jump on the mic and just get this out today. So there are two more voices letting you know that you are not alone.
Referenced in the episode:
AOC’s livestream from February 3rd
Don’t Believe Him by Ezra Klein
Read and watch more of Vasile's research and join our community at winforanimals.org
We discuss animal realism, the phenomenon that many see a vegan world as “unrealistic” and so do not actually fight for it, but for other half-measures and even weird and dystopian “solutions” to the environmental and moral atrocities of meat production.
Capitalist Realism by Mark Fisher
This Chinese cockroach farm houses a billion roaches, kept contained by a moat filled with hungry fish
videos: Cockroach Farm
Cockroaches a cash cow for Chinese farmer who breeds them for food and medicine
The Insect Farmer
cockroach scene from the dystopian movie Snowpeircer
For more from Vasile on colonialism and meat and dairy:
- White Power Milk: Dietary Racism and the Alt Right
- The Whopper Virgins: Hamburgers, Gender, and Xenophobia in Burger King’s Advertising
You can also listen to this talk on Animal Realism
Read and watch more of Vasile's research and join our community at winforanimals.org
Lego Experiment about meaningful work
Water Use and Animal Agriculture
Read and watch more of Vasile's research and join our community at winforanimals.org
CW: The episode discusses sexual violence towards other animals. Some of this episode is tough to talk about.
Referenced in the episode:
Joel Salatin wrote Everything I Want To Do Is Illegal
Here's an example of the industry talking about beef with adjectives.
Open Prairie Pork FAQ "Do the hogs live on an open pasture?: No — simply because hogs need protection from predators and extreme temperatures. Since hogs have very little hair and no sweat glands, they’re sensitive to both heat and cold. That’s why hogs in the Open Prairie Natural Pork program are kept in climate-controlled barns where they get just the right amount of food, veterinarian care and attention."
Hit By A Farm
An article about the bestiality issue - The Meat Industry’s Bestiality Problem
Some of Vasile's research on humanewashing of meat:
Crocodile Tears
New Weapons
Why Loving Animals is Not Enough
Read and watch more of Vasile's research and join our community at winforanimals.org
See earlier episode's show notes, particularly "Meat Eating is Climate Change Denial" for links to the studies showing that animal agriculture must be addressed if climate change is to be addressed.
Examples of possible effective policies:
Denmark Carbon Tax on Animal Ag
Peter Lehner at Earth Justice - does work on changing the farm bill
School Boards - school lunches, curricula, and so on
Call your congressperson about the farm bill, or any other issue that effects animals - use this link to find contact info
On Norm Setting:
Response to the claim that only 2% of US is vegan
Read and watch more of Vasile's research and join our community at winforanimals.org
Chicken Plus from Perdue
A positive article about Quorn blended meat from a vegan publication
The number of land animals slaughtered each year is now higher than the number we cited in the episode. It has grown to 92 billion.
The Morality of Meatlessness: Why Children Choose Vegetarianism
Response to the claim that only 2% of US is vegan
Veganism in the city of Ghent
Bruce Friedrich praising Tyson (smh)
Watch this talk for more on the topic of fighting for what we actually believe in
Read and watch more of Vasile's Research and join our community at winforanimals.org
Chipotle's ads (In case you don't know what the heck we are on about): Back to the Start and The Scarecrow.
The podcast where the host jokes he has an agenda to keep eating beef - Climate Curious
Read and watch more of Vasile's research and join our community at winforanimals.org
Sources of facts at the top of the show:
Substituting beans for beef as a contribution toward US climate change targets
Veganism is the most important individual action for the climate - (Joseph Poore, study of farms in 119 countries)
Even without fossil fuels, our food systems will put us past 1.5 degrees and probably 2 degrees
Other sources mentioned:
Volts: The Farm Bill is the most important climate bill the Congress will pass
Methane is responsible for 30% of the warming so far
Not mentioned in the episode, but for further content on meat and climate change from Vasile, start with this talk: The World is on Fire
Read and watch more of Vasile's Research and join our community at winforanimals.org
Books mentioned in the episode:
Barbed Wire by Reviel Netz
What If We Get It Right?: Visions of Climate Futures Ayana Elizabeth Johnson
Capitalist Realism by Mark Fisher
Read and watch more of Vasile's Research and join our community at winforanimals.org
Read and watch more of Vasile's research and join our community at winforanimals.org
From the publisher's feed
Vasile Stanescu, Ph.D. (he/him) is an associate professor of communication, and has published extensively on animal liberation. Devs Stanescu (they/them) is an engineer and activist. Vas and Devs are a husband and spouse that have been vegan for 20 years.
Veganism is not a diet. Veganism is not a lifestyle choice. Veganism is, and must be, a social justice movement in solidarity with other social justice movements. Humans’ exploitation of other animals is causing immense harm not only to those other animals, but to the very planetary systems that we all depend on to survive. There is no time to waste - we need to win for animals, and we need to do it now. In this podcast, we will explore what the movement for animal liberation is doing right, things we need to just cut out already, and, ultimately, how to win. We will laugh, rage, debunk, strategize, connect, and fight. And, in solidarity with you, and with all animals, we are going to win.