Allister Bush, a psychiatrist who works with Maori Mental Health Services in New Zealand and Lewis Mehl-Madrona, a psychiatrist who has worked extensively with North American indigenous people discuss their understanding of visions, spirit visitations, and voices. Allister is interviewing Lewis mostly and it's a deeply personal interview for Lewis, but Allister reassured him that no conventional psychiatrist would ever listen to his podcast and he might as well speak his truth, so here it is....