HR & Payroll 2.0

On this episode, Pete and Julie welcome the Commandant of Global Payroll, Max van der Klis-Busink to the show to celebrate the 8th annual Global Payroll Week! 

The group learns about Max’ path and early career start in payroll and the unlikely twists and challenges that have fueled his career and passion for payroll. Max talks about his new book, The Global Payroll Manager's Playbook: The Definitive Best Practices Framework , and his motivation for writing it.

He shares tips on building a successful career in payroll and shaping a resilient payroll operating model. Max emphasizes the power of collaboration and relationships in global payroll success and why it all starts with a vision and "beginning with the end in mind." Plus, Max opines on the future of global payroll and how to protect the professions’ rich talent and insights moving ahead. 

Connect with Max:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/passionforpayroll/

Max’ Book: https://shorturl.at/H4JPd 

Connect with the show:   

LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0 

X: @HRPayroll2_0 @PeteTiliakos @JulieFer_HR

BlueSky: @hrpayroll2o.bsky.social 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HRPAYROLL2_0

Another peek into the GenZ paths to the workplace with Julie’s second son, Elias.  His journey couldn’t be more opposite than that of his brother who was the opening show for our YouTube channel.

Eli finds his way to a finance intern position at Ford by networking – with exactly ONE adult role model.  Once and done is the way he rolls, content to begin his career with a Fortune 50 and one of the largest employers in his hometown, the metro Detroit area. 

Eli shares that Ford hires nearly all new graduates into an intern program with three-year rotation to expose them to different parts of the business. What a great way to attract and retain young workers who are known for their appetite to try on different roles.  When networking gives him a chance to leave the rotation program early for a full time role in green energy, how does he think about the options and tradeoffs. 

Lastly, we wrap up with some candid GenZ observations on working with older generations of workers from Boomers to GenX to Millennials. As any parent knows, younger workers grow up with technology in ways we can only hope to keep up!

Connect with Elias:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elifinance/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elifer01/

Email: [email protected]

Connect with the show:   

LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0 

X: @HRPayroll2_0 @PeteTiliakos @JulieFer_HR

BlueSky: @hrpayroll2o.bsky.social 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HRPAYROLL2_0

On this episode, Pete and Julie welcome Bryan Bergin and Jared Levine, equity research analysts with TD Cowen focused on the HR tech, fintech, and IT Services sectors! 

The group explores the overall health and state of the HR tech marketplace through the lens of financial analysts on the front lines of equity research and advisory. They explore the notable trends taking shape, including AI’s impact and the continued convergence of fintech with HR tech shaping emerging and leading provider solutions.   

They discuss how the current economic climate will impact the HR tech marketplace, including notable consolidation news and what to expect from providers getting together across the market.  Plus, a look at the potential for IPOs and what to watch for as 2025 unfolds! 

Connect with Bryan & Jared:

TD Cowen research: www.tdsecurities.com/ca/en/themes-2025 

Bryan Bergin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-bergin-cfa-cpa-456b3aa/

Jaren Levine: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jared-levine-cfa-cpa-08524346/

Connect with the show:   

LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0 

X: @HRPayroll2_0 @PeteTiliakos @JulieFer_HR

BlueSky: @hrpayroll2o.bsky.social 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HRPAYROLL2_0

On this episode, Pete and Julie welcome Nicole Sahin, founder and CEO of G-P, to talk AI at Work! 

The group starts by learning about Nicole’s career and path to becoming a global EOR pioneer.  They discuss the state of global employment and its impact on modern business strategy and how data and AI are playing a key role.  They dig into the key findings from the new G-P ‘AI at Work’ report and discuss the opportunities, challenges, and lessons learned for engaging AI to power the modern workforce.  

Connect with Nicole:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolesahin/ 

Download the G-P,‘AI at Work’ Report: https://www.globalization-partners.com/resources/2025-ai-at-work-report/ 

G-P: www.globalization-partners.com  

G-P Gia Beta: https://www.globalization-partners.com/gia/

Connect with the show:

LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0 

X: @HRPayroll2_0 @PeteTiliakos @JulieFer_HR

BlueSky: @hrpayroll2o.bsky.social 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HRPAYROLL2_0

On this episode, Pete and Julie welcome Future of Work Strategist at Infor, Marcus Mossberger to the show! 

After learning about Marcus’ career path in HR tech, the group discusses the inspiration for his unique podcast Hope @Work. Marcus shares his passion for the psychology and power of hope to drive the human spirit and how its infusion in workplace culture can create win-win outcomes for the organization and its workforce.  

The group explores the path to leveraging hope at work as a leader and the challenges with the application of hope in the context of business leadership. They also explore the concept of ‘practice at work’, why practice has become a lost fundamental in the workplace, and how healthy competition plays a role in operational excellence and competitive advantage. 

Connect with Marcus:

Website: www.workplacehope.com 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmossberger/

Hope @ Work Podcast: https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/hopeatwork 

Marcus’ LinkedIn post on practice at work…https://shorturl.at/TXXsd 

Connect with the show:   

LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0 

X: @HRPayroll2_0 @PeteTiliakos @JulieFer_HR

You can now enjoy HR & Payroll 2.0 on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HRPAYROLL2_0

On this episode, Pete and Julie welcome John Sarvari, Chief Technology Officer at AppyHere, to explore the current state and outlook for modern talent acquisition! John discusses his unique journey from optimizing manufacturing supply chains to disrupting talent acquisition tech for the frontline workforce! 

John shares insights and expertise for winning the frontline workforce and explains why the frontline worker hiring process is a lot like managing a live inventory of talent and how seizing those “moments of attention” can determine success—or failure.  

The group discusses hot-button topics like fraud in recruiting, tech’s rising influence on hiring, and the all-too-common trend of recruiters and candidates ghosting each other.  They explore the rapid pace and impacts of innovation on talent management, the importance of upskilling and forecasting labor demand, and AI’s growing role in the recruiter and candidate experiences. 

Connect with John:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-sarvari/ 

AppyHere: https://www.appyhere.com

Links to resources mentioned on the episode: 

Connect with the show:   

LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0 

X: @HRPayroll2_0 @PeteTiliakos @JulieFer_HR

BlueSky: @hrpayroll2o.bsky.social 

You can now enjoy HR & Payroll 2.0 on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HRPAYROLL2_0

On this special ‘HR Tech Marketplace Quick Take’ episode, Pete and Julie discuss the recent announcement by Deel to acquire the global payroll business segment from Safeguard Global.

They discuss the acquisition by the numbers, sharing insights on what it means for the new couple.  What Safeguard Global brings and why it makes sense for Deel, how the marriage impacts the broader marketplace and the Deel GTM.  Plus, tips for buy-side leaders and organizations considering or already a customer of either firm.

Deel Press Release on its acquisition of Safeguard Global’s Global Payroll Business: 

https://www.deel.com/blog/deel-acquires-safeguard-global-payroll-division/ 

Andreessen Horowitz article mentioned on the show, “Deconstructing Deel”: https://a16z.com/deconstructing-deel/ 

Connect with the show:  

WRKDefined: https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/hr-payroll-20 

LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0 

X: @HRPayroll2_0 @PeteTiliakos @JulieFer_HR

BlueSky: @hrpayroll2o.bsky.social 

You can now enjoy HR & Payroll 2.0 on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HRPAYROLL2_0

On this episode, Pete and Julie share their POV’s and insights on a flurry of HR tech marketplace updates and activity quickly making headlines in the early months of 2025!  Pete shares his experience at ADP Rethink Zurich and time in Switzerland before breaking down product announcements, acquisitions, and news from vendors across HCM, EOR, and Big Tech and more.  Vendor news mentioned in the episode include ADP, Chime, Workday, HiBob, G-P, Deel, Google, Spotify. 

Connect with the show:  

LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0 

X: @HRPayroll2_0 @PeteTiliakos @JulieFer_HR

You can now enjoy HR & Payroll 2.0 on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HRPAYROLL2_0

Articles and links mentioned on this episode:

On this episode, Pete and Julie welcome VP of HR Technology and Operations at Signify Health, Kamal Pradhan, to the show to talk about the role of “empathy with action” in leadership and the workplace!

Kamal shares his personal journey from engineering to HR, his POV on building trust through empathy, and the importance of balancing technology, human connection, and strategic decision-making as modern leaders. The group explores how proactive empathy, data-driven policies, and technology can empower leaders to create more inclusive, productive, and engaged workplaces. They also tackle the challenges of quantifying the ROI from empathy and the role of emotional intelligence in shaping the future workforce and its leaders.  

Connect with Pradhan:

LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpradhan-hr/

Pradhan’s episode of The Source by DailyPay: 

https://tinyurl.com/2p9uny24

Chicago Booth Review article: “CEOs’ Soft and Interpersonal Skills Have Not Increased over Time”  https://tinyurl.com/322hfhrm  

Connect with the show:  

LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0 

X: @HRPayroll2_0 @PeteTiliakos @JulieFer_HR

The 2025 Payroll Profession Confidence Index survey is now live! Be sure to join in and share with your peers: https://www.payrollinfluences.com/ppci 

On this episode, Pete and Julie welcome a cohort of global employer of record (EOR) industry execs and all-stars to discuss a recent and unexpectedly polarizing LinkedIn post regarding the global EOR marketplace! 

Pete shares his POV and context on the ‘why’ behind his post and observations regarding the lack of differentiation amongst the global EOR providers. The group discusses the post and the current state of EOR and the potential inflection point it's reaching, sharing their thoughts on the current state of the market and its innovation. The guests provide insights and perspectives derived from all facets of the marketplace for global employment solutions, shedding light on how buyers and vendors should approach the organizational agility and human opportunity-enabling capability of Global EOR, and what the marketplace might look like in the next 5-10 years.

Pete’s Global EOR differentiation post: https://shorturl.at/EPsfV

Connect with our guests on LinkedIn:

Pierce Brehm: https://www.linkedin.com/in/piercebrehm/

Dee Coakley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deecoakley/

Jerome Gouvernel: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeromegouvernel/

John Lee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/j0hnlee/

Connect with the show:

LinkedIn:  http://linkedin.com/company/hr-payroll-2-0

X: @HRPayroll2_0 @PeteTiliakos @JulieFer_HR

The 2025 Payroll Profession Confidence Index survey is now live! Be sure to join in and share with your peers: https://www.payrollinfluences.com/ppci