Huck and Hope

Pat and Brian come back together to dive into the Huck and Hope mailbag to celebrate the show being released in it's entirety for free! They reflect on the series and discuss a few anecdotes that didn't make it into the original show. 

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On the finale of Huck and Hope, Pat and Brian look at the end of an era - for the Rochester Dragons, for ultimate, and for the internet culture and economy of the early 2010s. As financial realities and larger cultural forces push out all the good blogs and bad frisbee teams, boomtown optimism turns into something more cynical, and perhaps more sustainable. What lessons can we take from the existence of the Dragons? From participating in ultimate frisbee itself? Was it all worth it? They guys talk to several players, media figures, including the former owner of the Dragons Lee Semrau, to find out.

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On the penultimate episode of Huck and Hope, Pat and Brian look at the large cultural forces at play that have transitioned the ultimate community from where it was before the AUDL and the Dragons existed to where we are now. In particular, they look at how one controversial figure represented what the sport became, what it rejected, and what value it really had to the rest of the world. It's time to talk about Brodie Smith.

What happens when a freight train of unearned enthusiasm slams into a brick wall of reality? You get the April 26, 2014 game between the Dragons and the New York Empire. Along with several guests who were there on hand, Pat and Brian survey the wreckage from what may have been the worst game of ultimate ever played, and see what happens when you scrape away a veneer of legitimacy from a team and league that was one coat of paint deep.


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The Dragons play a game in Toronto on ESPN 3, and a post on Lil Wayne's Facebook page is there to prove it. This begs the question: what does that actually mean?

Patrick and Brian look at how the anxieties of a generation of ultimate players led to a quest for visibility and legitimacy during the early days of the AUDL and Triple Crown Tour that forever changed the way we process and interact with the sport.


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Ultimate frisbee is growing fast and there are riches to be had - supposedly. Patrick Stegemoeller and Brian Kibler look at some of the people, organizations, and businesses like the Rochester Dragons that got swept up in the excitement, energy, and optimism of an era where it seemed like the sport was one step away from making the leap to mainstream legitimacy, and the reality of what these schemes really meant.


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In 2013, the Rochester Dragons launched their inaugural season in the AUDL. The team's sheer existence defying most notions of competitive and business sense. Yet for three years the often hapless franchise rode the wave of a sport and community trying to become something bigger and grander than it had ever been before. Ultiworld's Patrick Stegemoeller and Brian Kibler look back on one of the strangest chapters in the sport's history and discover that the key to understanding the Rochester Dragons reveals something much larger about ultimate, the AUDL, and America itself.

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