Human 3 with Brom and Sam

Human 3 with Brom and Sam

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Human 3 with Brom and Sam episodes

  • Psychedelics and AI and in 2025 with Dillan DiNardo of Y Combinator-backed Mindstate Design Labs

    Dillan DiNardo, the founder and CEO of Mindstate Design Labs, a drug development company using AI to enable the precision design of altered states of consciousness joins the podcast to discuss the state of psychedelics, AI, consciousness, why Marc Andreessen hates psychedelics, and the intersection of all these things.

    Follow Brom on Twitter: https://twitter.com/therealbrom
    Learn more about Mindstate: https://www.mindstate.design/
    Brom is the founder of focalpoint partners: https://www.focalpointlp.com/

    1 hr 6 min
  • Making Deep Brain Stimulation Minimally Invasive with MJ Antonini and Nicki Driscoll of NeuroBionics

    Today’s guests are MJ Antonini & Nicki Driscoll, the founders of NeuroBionics, a neurotech startup out of MIT. NeuroBionics is making Deep Brain Stimulation minimally invasive though the development of nano fibers that are 10X thinner than traditional Deep Brain Stimulation leads - allowing them to be inserted endovascularly into the brain.

    Check out NeuroBionics at https://neurobionics.io/

    55 min
  • Elliot Marseille - UC Berkeley Healthcare Economist on the Financial Viability of Psychedelic Therapy

    Will MDMA and psychedelic therapy be affordable?

    There are lots of questions about the economic and financial future of psychedelic therapies. How much will they cost? Will insurance cover them? And more fundamentally, how does one even begin to quantify the value of a psychedelic experience?
    Today’s guest, Elliot Marseille, PhD is here to explore all these questions and more.
    Dr. Marseille is a leading expert on the economics of the emerging psychedelic-assisted therapies. He is the founding Director of the UC Berkeley's Global Initiative for Psychedelic Science Economics (GIPSE), a network of health economists and health services researchers dedicated to realizing the potential of psychedelic therapies for high-priority mental health conditions. Through the application of policy-relevant economic analyses, GIPSE seeks to enhance the efficiency of service delivery, and increase access to these promising therapies.
    Follow Dr. Marseille's work: https://cghdde.berkeley.edu/projects/global-initiative-psychedelic-science-economics-gipse

    53 min
  • Founder of the AI Responsibility Lab, Ramsay Brown on AI Safety, AI Coworkers & ChatGPT doing DMT

    🤖 ChatGPT & Dall-E today - misinformation, bias & worker displacement tomorrow. In a world where artificial intelligence is becoming increasingly advanced, it's more important than ever to ensure that AI systems are aligned with our values and behave in ways that are safe for humanity. But what exactly does it mean to align an AI system, and how do we go about ensuring its safety?   

    Here to answer these questions and more (including the most important question: will AIs take psychedelics?) is Ramsay Brown. Ramsay is the Founder of the AI Responsibility Lab (AIRL). AIRL builds venture-scale deep tech solutions for AI Safety and AI Resilience. AIRL's flagship product, Mission Control, integrates Responsible AI training, AI Risk Management, and AI Governance orchestration to drive fairness, explainability, and trust throughout the entire AI lifecycle.  


    Check out AIRL here: https://www.takecontrol.ai/  

    Ramsay on Twitter: https://twitter.com/_ramsaybrown 

    Brom on twitter: https://twitter.com/therealbrom


    5:30 - What are the major concerns in AI safety? 

    10:30 - Examples of AI gone bad  

    16:00 - What is the hardest part of AI alignment? 

    21:00 - What is Ramsay’s unique angle on AI alignment?  

    24:00 - Is the world ready for conversations about responsible AI?   

    25:30 - Who is responsible for responsible AI?  

    32:00 - What regulations would Ramsay put into place?  

    41:00 - Eliezer Yudkowsky 

    47:00 - The era of synthetic labor 

    55:00 - The Turing Test is a red herring  

    1:04:00 - What jobs are safe from the AI takeover?  

    1:14:00 - Will machines do psychedelics?

    1 hr 25 min
  • 43: India Oxenberg, NXIVM Cult Survivor - Psychedelics for Cult Deprogramming & Healing Sexual Trauma

    🍄 India Oxenberg is a survivor of the NXIVM cult.  While her 7 years in NXIVM have been covered extensively in multiple documentaries, articles and books, this is the first interview in which she details the role that psychedelics played in her post-NXIVM healing journey.    


    India is the author of "Still Learning", a memoir documenting her seven-year experience with and escape from the toxic cult, NXIVM.  She is the executive producer of "SEDUCED: INSIDE THE NXIVM CULT", a Starz documentary.  By sharing her story, she hopes to raise awareness about the insidious nature of coercion and hopes to offer other survivors a platform to share their stores.   


    India's mother, Catherine Oxenberg was instrumental in taking down NXIVM.  She is the founder of The Catherine Oxenberg Foundation, a foundation dedicated to helping individuals and families recover from the devastating effects of unresolved trauma. Their mission is to shift the paradigm of trauma from one of stigma and disability to one of growth, opportunity and a gateway to wisdom and empowerment.  


    Keith Raniere, the founder of NXIVM was found guilty of sex trafficking, racketeering, wire fraud and a litany of other charges in 2019.  He is currently serving a 120 year prison sentence.   


    Follow India on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/indiaoxenberg/ 


    The Catherine Oxenberg Foundation: https://catherineoxenberg.com/foundation/ 


    Follow Brom on Twitter:  https://www.twitter.com/therealbrom  


    ⏰ Timestamps   

    01:36 India's time in NXIVM  

    21:52 How did psychedelics become a part of India’s healing journey? 

    34:00 Advice from India to other women who’ve experienced sexual trauma  

    38:16 How psychedelics healed India’s relationship with her family  

    41:17 Other substances that India experimented with 

    45:00 Self-guided VS Guided trips? 

    48:50 How psychedelics helped India see Keith Raniere in a different light  

    54:12 Bad trips: ketamine nightmares  

    58:45 Trying psychedelics while being in a cult  

    1:07:58 Psychedelic cults and how to identify them

    1 hr 24 min
  • 42: William Padilla-Brown - Cultivating Cordyceps, Analyzing Algae & the endless Mystery of Mushrooms

    🍄  Today’s guest is William-Padilla Brown.  William is a self-taught mycologist, mushroom forager, and researcher.  He’s the founder of MycoSymbiotics, a research organization focused on Fungi and Algae.    


    In this episode: 

    - How cordyceps can inhibit HIV 

    - Why you should grow oyster mushrooms on coffee grounds 

    - The most over-looked functional mushroom 

    - How mushrooms can absorb radiation 

    - Fun theories about psychedelic algae 

    - Meta-Programming the human biocomputer  

    - And More! 


    Learn more about Will on his website: https://solo.to/permaculturepapi

    Learn more about Mycosymbiotics on the website: https://mycosymbiotics.com/  


    Follow Brom on Twitter:  https://www.twitter.com/therealbrom 

    Invest in Brom's VC Fund, Empath Ventures:  https://www.empath.vc 


    ⏰ Time Stamps:  

    0:00 Why are mushrooms having a moment? 

    10:00 How did Will get into mushrooms? 

    18:20 How to get started with mushrooms/mycology/foraging 

    26:03 Are there significant differences between different strains of psychedelic mushrooms?  

    29:57 What compounds, other than psilocybin, can impact your psychedelic trip? 

    35:36 Cordyceps: the mushroom that grows on insects 

    41:49 What do cordyceps do to the human body and why should we consume them? 

    46:56 What mushrooms should beginning growers start with 

    48:03 What is the most underrated functional mushroom? 

    53:04 Algae? 

    59:45 Meta programming the human biocomputer  

    1:02:05 Industry prediction in Oregon and Colorado

    1 hr 13 min

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