In this episode of Human Coded, we continue our deep dive into change management, focusing on the most crucial and often most challenging aspect—people. Host Quinn Brewer is joined by returning guest Casey Zaitz, a change management and agile expert, along with Alexander Wenzel, a key player in project management at M&S Consulting. Together, they explore how leaders can navigate resistance to change, turn skeptics into advocates, and build trust across an organization. They also discuss M&S Consulting’s approach to facilitating successful change initiatives and the importance of addressing the human operating system—because even the best technology solutions fail without adoption. Whether you're leading a transformation or managing a team through change, this episode is packed with practical insights to help you make change stick.

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