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  • Creatives/Startups: The Old Way, The New Way, and the AI-Powered In-Between with Doug Ayres

    In this lively and thought-provoking episode of Creatives WithAI, host Lena Robinson partners up with fellow Startups WithAI host and the OG of this show, David Brown as she is joined by AI entrepreneur and digital platform expert Doug Ayres. Doug shares his insights from nearly two decades in digital innovation, including his latest ventures at EBM and Chat2Impact, where AI is reshaping how charities and nonprofits interact, automate, and support the people who need them most.

    This episode also marks the debut of the show’s refreshed format, featuring an open discussion on zeitgeist-defining stories brought by hosts and guests. From the ethics of real-time AI "cheatware" like Cluely, to government use of generative AI tools like Redbox, to the potential of Agentic AI via the new Model Context Protocol (MCP), no corner of the AI conversation is left unexplored. The trio also reflects on future-of-work shifts, generational resilience, and how creativity and human empathy might be our greatest differentiators in an increasingly AI-driven world.

    Key Takeaways:

    • Doug’s consultancy Chat2Impact is using AI to create safe, smart, and low-cost chatbot solutions for charities like Childline and Turn2Us, supporting high-need communities at scale.
    • The team discusses Cluely, a controversial AI interview assistant, sparking debate on the blurry ethics between cheating and preparing for the future of work.
    • Lena spotlights New Scientist’s reporting on AI in UK government operations, raising questions about transparency and accountability in leadership.
    • Doug explains MCP (Model Context Protocol) and its promise for truly Agentic AI, where LLMs go beyond chat to perform real actions based on personal context and secure permissions.
    • The conversation closes with big questions: What jobs will still exist in 5-10 years? What happens to knowledge work? And how can we lead with creativity, not fear?

    Want to help shape future episodes? Drop us a question on our socials or your listening platform of choice so hosts can provide the answers you seek.

    Connect Online with Doug (Co-founder of EBM and Chat2Impact):

    • Doug on LinkedIn
    • EBM on LinkedIn and Website
    • Chat2Impact on LinkedIn and Website

    

    Creatives WithAI Host // Lena Robinson //

    and Co-host Startups WithAI Host // David Brown //

    Stay Curious

    Key people and brands referenced in this episode:

    • Michael Crawley (Former guest) Episode 122
    • Roy Lee (Creator of “Cluely” AI cheat tool) LinkedIn
    • Dan Brown (Author of Origin) Book
    • Stephen Fry (Recommended guest) Website
    • Jordan Peterson (Recommended guest) Website
    • Barbara Broccoli (James Bond Director) Wikipedia
    • Childline (NSPCC helpline) https://www.childline.org.uk/
    • NSPCC (Charity) https://www.nspcc.org.uk/
    • Turn2us (Charity) https://www.turn2us.org.uk/
    • New Scientist (Keir Starmer using AI as an advisor) Article
    • CogX (AI and tech conference) https://www.cogxfestival.com/
    • OpenAI https://www.openai.com/
    • Anthropic (Claude AI) https://www.anthropic.com/
    • Perplexity AI (agentic voice interface) https://www.perplexity.ai/
    • Stripe (Online Payments) https://stripe.com/
    • PayPal (Online Payments) https://www.paypal.com/
    • Visa / Mastercard (Debit/Credit Cards) https://www.visa.co.uk/ / https://www.mastercard.co.uk/
    • EY (Ernst & Young) and PwC (Management Consultants) https://www.ey.com/ / https://www.pwc.com/
    • Replit (no-code AI integration) https://replit.com/
    • Genspark (Slide-creation AI tool) https://genspark.ai/

    1 hr 16 min
  • Creatives: Scaling with Soul - How can AI empower founders not replace them with Bridget Greenwood

    In this illuminating conversation, Lena Robinson sits down with Bridget Greenwood, founder of The Bigger Pie and co-founder of The200BnClub, to explore how systemic bias in innovation funding is holding back potential and what it takes to shift the dial for good.

    Bridget, a long-time advocate for women in emerging tech, shares her personal journey from financial advising to Web3, and now AI education, all fueled by her drive to make change scalable, sustainable, and inclusive.

    Bridget doesn’t just talk about inclusion, she builds ecosystems for it. She discusses why confidence is just as crucial as capital and connections for female founders and reflects on how we can design better systems that challenge bias, instead of entrenching it. She also shares what she’s learned from running AI training courses for business leaders, especially how startups can creatively stretch lean resources using AI tools like ChatGPT and no-code apps.

    Expect a candid, wide-ranging conversation covering prompt engineering, parenting Gen Z with tech, the dangers of algorithmic manipulation, and the relationship between boredom and creativity. Bridget brings deep insight and warmth, reminding us that future-forward leadership must be bold, diverse, and deeply human.

    Takeaways:

    • Bias isn’t just personal—it’s systemic. Without redesigning systems to support diverse leadership, we’ll keep replicating the same patterns.
    • Confidence is a game-changer. Especially for women founders navigating male-dominated tech spaces.
    • Creativity goes beyond the arts. Bridget champions problem-solving as one of the most powerful forms of creativity.
    • AI is the ultimate force multiplier—but only when humans guide it strategically and ethically.
    • We need more boredom. Stillness and downtime are essential for sparking real creative insight.

    Bridget's accolades as mentioned:

    • The Ethical Finance Awards Winner
    • Crypto Currency Diversity & Inclusion Organisation of the Year 2022
    • European Women in Finance 2022
    • Top 100 Women of the Future
    • Women In FinTech Powerlist
    • Part of the Standout45

    How to connect with Bridget online:

    • The Bigger Pie
    • The200BnClub
    • Bridget on LinkedIn

    Creatives WithAI Host // Lena Robinson // Stay Curious

    People referenced in this episode:

    • Yasmin Topia (guest recommendation) - LinkedIn
    • Tom Morley (previous guest) - LinkedIn & Previous episode
    • Martin Sorrell (former head of WPP) - Wikipedia

    Companies/Brands referenced in this episode:

    • BCB Group - Website
    • Let’s Fund More Women - LinkedIn
    • ChatGPT - Website
    • Claude - Website
    • Character.AI - Website
    • MindStudio - Website
    • Lovable - Website
    • Vibe - Website
    • IKEA - AI implementation Case Study
    • NatWest - Website
    • Netflix - Adolescence

    1 hr 5 min
  • The AI Chatbot That Said “Yes, I’ll Be Your Mom” with Angeline Corvaglia

    In this relationship-themed discussion, Angeline Corvaglia shares her journey from sales and digital transformation to AI advocacy. She focuses on AI’s psychological impact, especially on young people, and explains why emotional safety, critical thinking, and cultural representation are essential when engaging with AI tools like chatbots.

    Topics Covered:

    • The hidden risks of AI chatbots for young users
    • Why parasocial relationships can feel real but aren’t
    • The psychological importance of boredom
    • AI’s cultural blind spots and how they affect young people globally
    • Why schools must prioritise critical thinking over tool training
    • How parents can shift from control to co-navigation of AI with their kids
    • Angeline’s global initiative, SHIELD, and her upcoming online event

    Resources & Mentions:

    • SHIELD Global Online Safety Conference (June 11th)
    • Book: The Shallows – What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains
    • Experts mentioned: Sonia Tiwari, Genevieve Bartuski and Catherine Knibbs

    Connect with Angeline:

    Angeline Corvaglia is the Founder of SHIELD, an AI educator and advocate for ethical and inclusive AI use.

    LinkedIn

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    data-girl-france.com

    49 min
  • Women WithAI: Are you a Cyborg or a Centaur? Strategy, Creativity & Radical Clarity with Joy Dean

    In this latest episode of Women WithAI, host Joanna Shilton welcomes back the always dynamic Joy Dean, EMEA VP of Publisher Partnerships at Optima, founder of The Digital Dean, and a creative entrepreneur who’s helping individuals and companies reimagine their approach to AI, strategy, and scale.

    Joy brings radical clarity to a rapidly evolving space, cutting through the noise to offer practical insight into how AI can become a true partner in business, creative practice, and personal productivity. From her background in global ad tech to her wellness retreats and bespoke consultancy, Joy is the definition of a multidimensional leader for the AI age.

    In this thoughtful and energising conversation, Joy explains the difference between being a cyborg (toggling between human and machine) and a centaur (seamlessly collaborating with AI), and why this distinction matters if you want to work smarter, not harder.

    Whether you’re running a solo business, managing a team, or just trying to stay afloat in the digital noise, this episode is packed with practical inspiration and tools to help you thrive.

    Key Takeaways

    1. The Cyborg vs Centaur mindset: Why your approach to collaborating with AI matters and how to build trust with it as a creative partner.
    2. Using AI to scale solo ventures: How creative entrepreneurs can harness AI to replace repetitive tasks, sense-check decisions, and organise their workflows.
    3. AI literacy for all: Why it's not just about tools—it's about understanding how data, tone, prompts, and personal context shape AI responses.
    4. Custom GPTs and creative automation: How Joy builds personal GPTs and agents that work with her tone, goals, and workflows, plus the tools she recommends.
    5. Ethical engagement and data hygiene: Joy shares her golden rules for protecting privacy, respecting copyright, and using AI responsibly.
    6. Wellness, identity and AI integration: From yoga and retreat planning to ad tech strategy, Joy’s holistic use of AI brings creativity and clarity to every corner of her life.
    7. Start before you’re ready: You don’t need to be an expert to begin. Joy’s approach is hands-on, humble, and deeply human, perfect for anyone learning as they go.

    Digital Contacts for Joy Dean (The Digital Dean):
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thedigitaldean/
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedigitaldean/

    Links Relevant to this episode:
    • Emma Wharton – Founder of Spark AI - https://www.linkedin.com/in/emmawhartonlove/
    • Maninder Paul – https://www.linkedin.com/in/maninderpaul/
    • Jon Walsh – https://www.linkedin.com/in/walshjon/
    • AdTech Chat - https://www.linkedin.com/company/adtech-chat-community/
    • Optima – https://optima.tech/
    • The Women in Programmatic Network (TWIN) - https://www.thewomeninprogrammaticnetwork.com/
    • Digital Leading Ladies – https://www.instagram.com/digitalleadingl/
    • Gamma – AI presentation & content tool - https://gamma.app
    • Canva – Visual design platform with AI features - https://www.canva.com
    • ChatGPT / OpenAI - https://chat.openai.com
    • Claude - https://claude.ai
    • Midjourney – AI image generation tool - https://www.midjourney.com
    • DALL·E (OpenAI) – AI image generation tool - https://openai.com/dall-e
    • Runway – AI video editing platform - https://runwayml.com
    • Yoodli – AI-powered speech coach and content assistant - https://www.yoodli.ai
    • Corsiv – Online AI learning platform mentioned - https://corsiv.ai

    Thanks for listening

    //Women WithAI Host// Joanna Shilton

    40 min
  • Creatives WithAI: Through Her Lens: Where Photography Meets AI with Tigz Rice

    What happens when a talented illustrator's journey comes to an end and that same creative person finds something even more powerful on the other side? In this episode of Creatives WithAI, host Lena Robinson is joined by Tigz Rice, an award-winning empowerment photographer whose career began in the world of illustration and design before she pivoted into photography through the sparkling, vibrant world of burlesque.

    Tigz shares her journey from designing on the page to capturing confidence through the lens, using her signature editorial style to help clients reconnect with their bodies, embrace visibility, and show up unapologetically, whether they are photographed on a stage, in an artistically inspired location or simply in a LinkedIn profile picture. She also dives into how AI is naturally integrating into her creative workflow, from Adobe’s smart editing tools to generative features that speed up production without compromising authenticity.

    This conversation goes beyond the tools, exploring the nuance between honesty and aspiration in self-image, and how AI raises questions about creative ownership, ethical usage, and digital trust. Tigz also offers a powerful perspective on the importance of creative choice, arguing that fantasy and realism both have their place, as long as the individual is in control.

    KEY TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE

    • Why choice and consent matter in both photography and AI
    • The evolving role of trust in visual media
    • How AI tools are quietly transforming creative workflows
    • The difference between inspiration and copying, and why copyright law is still catching up
    • Why education, play, and accessibility are the keys to the next wave of creativity

    Tune in for a warm, honest, and expansive conversation on creativity, visibility, and the beautiful complexity of being seen.

    FIND TIGZ RICE ONLINE:

    • Instagram: www.instagram.com/tigzrice
    • Facebook: www.facebook.com/TigzRice
    • Twitter: www.twitter.com/Tigzy
    • TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@tigzrice
    • Youtube: www.youtube.com/tigzrice

    TIGZ RICE PROMOTIONS:

    • Buy STRIP/TEASE - https://www.tigzrice.com/product/striptease-burlesque-book/
    • Shoot With Tigz - https://www.tigzrice.com/
    • Learn with Tigz - https://www.tigzrice.com/photographers/ 

    LINKS TO PEOPLE AND COMPANIES REFERRED:

    • Miss Exotic World/Burlesque Hall of Fame - https://www.burlesquehall.com
    • Michael Cawley - past guest and UX Designer - Episode 122
    • Anna Cowie - past guest, fine artist and creative director - Episode 76
    • The Patent  https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/48/contents 
    • Adobe (Photoshop, Illustrator, Lightroom etc)
    • Amazon - London venue - Women Podcaster Creators Meet
    • Digital Women - Nominated for Digital Creator of the Year (2021) and finalist (2023)
    • f:Entrepreneur 2023 #ialso list - one of the top 100 inspiring businesswomen in the UK
    • The Underpinnings Museum - https://underpinningsmuseum.com/?s=tigz+rice
    • Epidemic Sound - AI music editing and licensing tool mentioned
    • ChatGPT (OpenAI) - https://chat.openai.com
    • Midjourney - https://www.midjourney.com
    • World Ethical Data Foundation - https://worldethicaldata.org/
    • Tokyo teamLab (Art Installation) - https://www.teamlab.art
    • Copyright Court Case - Photographer vs Graffiti artist


    //Lena Robinson (Host)// Stay Curious

    58 min
  • Relationships WithAI: AI & the Future of Business: A Candid Conversation with Nzube Ufodike

    AI is reshaping industries, but what about relationships, the ones that drive business, investment, and governance?

    In this episode of Relationships WithAI, host Iyabo Oba is joined by entrepreneur, angel investor, and investment director Nzube Ufodike to explore the power of relationships in leadership, investment, and AI adoption. With over £50M in capital raised, Nzube has helped startups and growth-stage businesses secure funding and develop strategies that turn ideas into thriving companies. He advises founders, accelerator portfolios, and business owners on how to build the right connections, whether for investment, scaling, or navigating the AI revolution.

    As a board member, advisor, and community leader, Nzube understands the role of trust, networks, and governance in business success. He shares insights on:

    • How AI is changing professional relationships, from startup funding to boardroom decision-making
    • Why governance and leadership must evolve to reflect AI’s growing influence
    • What investors look for beyond just AI hype and how founders can build trust with them
    • The role of diverse, inclusive ecosystems in shaping sustainable businesses
    • How relationships, human and machine, are redefining success in business and investment

    Beyond his work in investment and governance, Nzube is passionate about community-building and representation. He serves as a board trustee for The Africa Centre, Founding Chair of EMBRACE at the British Computer Society, and Chair of the Young Executives Group at the Institute of Directors.

    If you’re a founder, investor, policymaker, or leader navigating the intersection of AI, relationships, and governance, this conversation is a must-listen.

    1 hr 14 min
  • Women WithAI: AI in Education: Helping Teachers, Not Replacing Them with Hannah Marr

    In this episode, Jo speaks with Hannah Marr, an educational publishing professional turned AI leader. Hannah shares how she transitioned from working with printed books and cassettes to guiding AI adoption in education at Cambridge University Press & Assessment.

    They discuss how AI is being used to support, not replace, teachers, and why responsible implementation is key to ensuring AI benefits educators, students, and researchers.

    Key Topics:

    ✅ Hannah’s career journey from traditional publishing to AI

    ✅ How teachers are already using AI tools like ChatGPT in the classroom

    ✅ The importance of keeping a “teacher in the loop” approach

    ✅ AI’s role in lesson planning, exam marking, and personalized assessments

    ✅ Addressing fears around AI replacing jobs or enabling cheating

    ✅ How Cambridge ensures safe, ethical AI use with its Safe Use Panel

    ✅ The future of education—will AI shift learning from knowledge-based to skills-focused?

    ✅ Practical tips for educators exploring AI

    28 min
  • Women WithAI: Accelerating Action for Women: Celebrating International Women's Day 2025

    This special episode of Women WithAI marks a double celebration: International Women's Day 2025 and the one-year anniversary of the Women WithAI podcast. Host Joanna Shilton is joined by two powerhouse female voices from the WithAI FM Podcast Network, Iyabo Oba  host of Relationships WithAI and Lena Robinson host of Creatives WithAI, for a deep and candid discussion on this year’s International Women’s Day theme: Accelerate Action.

    Together, they share personal stories of moments where they had to take bold, decisive steps to drive change in their careers. From challenging pay inequities to turning around struggling organisations, these conversations highlight the power of action in creating real, lasting impact. They also explore the role of AI in shaping the future, both as a tool for empowerment and as a space where women must claim their seat at the decision-making table.

    But action isn’t just about grand gestures. It’s also about advocating for others, making space for women’s voices in meetings, and ensuring AI development reflects diverse perspectives. The conversation wraps up with a lighthearted but important question: What’s one thing AI could automate to give us more time for action? The answers may surprise you.

    Join us for a dynamic, inspiring, and thought-provoking discussion on why now, more than ever, is the time to accelerate action for women in AI and beyond.

    Joanna Shilton | Host of Women WithAI

    Links to people and companies mentioned in the show:

    • Joanna Shilton - Host of Women WithAI (LinkedIn)
    • Iyabo Oba - Host of Relationships WithAI (LinkedIn)
    • Lena Robinson - Host of Creatives WithAI (LinkedIn)

    Supporters of the WithAI FM Podcast Network 

    • Nadio Granata - Host of Education WithAI and IWD2025 article mentioned - https://glomacs.com/ai-as-the-great-leveller-a-call-to-action-for-international-womens-day
    • David Brown Founder/Producer/Editor of WithAI FM Podcast Network - https://www.linkedin.com/in/4dmbrown/
    • The 'other Dave' aka David Atkinson - Host of Places WithAI https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-atkinson-01445a40/
    • Will Charlesworth - Host of The Law WithAI - https://www.linkedin.com/in/will-charlesworth-54439b11/

    Other companies mentioned

    • International Women's Day - https://www.internationalwomensday.com/
    • WithAI FM Podcast Network – https://www.withai.fm/episodes/1#showEpisodes
    • Chartered Institute of Marketing (CIM) – (Website)
    • Instagram - (Website)

    26 min
  • Creatives WithAI: AI, Bland Brands, and the Art of Asking Better Questions with Michael Cawley

    In this thought-provoking episode of Creatives WithAI, host Lena Robinson sits down with Product Discovery Expert Michael Cawley to explore the intersection of AI, creativity, and user experience. With a background spanning graphic design, marketing, and UX, Michael brings a unique perspective on how AI is reshaping creative workflows, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse.

    The conversation dives into the real impact of AI on creative industries, questioning whether it's actually freeing up time for deeper thinking or simply accelerating a cycle of endless production. Michael shares insights from nearly two decades of working in UX and product discovery, explaining why data alone isn't enough and why asking 'Why? is still the most important question in user research.

    Lena and Michael discuss the rise of "bland" AI-generated content, the growing fetishisation of data, and the critical role human intuition plays in crafting meaningful user experiences. They also debate whether AI will ultimately serve as a tool for efficiency or dilute originality in creative work. With fascinating detours into brand identity, the evolution of chatbot UX, and even the unexpected role of AI in corporate decision-making, this episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating the rapidly evolving landscape of AI-driven creativity.

    Find out why Michael believes quality over speed should always win, and why, in an AI-powered world, admitting "I don’t know" might just be the most valuable answer of all.

    Here's how to find Michael Cawley online:

    • LinkedIn
    • Website

    Other people mentioned during the podcast:

    • Graham Pugh – branding and blandness https://brandvoice.agency/who/
    • Julia Cameron – Author of The Artist’s Way https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Cameron
    • Susi O’Neill – AI Expert, suggested as a future guest https://www.linkedin.com/in/susioneill/
    • Doug Ayres – Chat to Impact https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougayres/

    Other companies/brands mentioned during the podcast:

    • Intercom - https://www.intercom.com/
    • The Drum - article re Unilever’s acquisition of Wild - https://www.thedrum.com/news/2025/02/18/after-the-dollar-shave-club-fiasco-can-unilever-acquire-wild-without-killing-its
    • Glastonbury Festival - https://www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/line-up/
    • Claude AI - https://claude.ai/login?returnTo=%2F%3F
    • ChatGPT - https://chatgpt.com/

    48 min
  • Creatives: René Gruss: Music, AI & The Power of Instinct

    In this episode of Creatives with AI, host Lena Robinson sits down with composer, environmentalist, and humanitarian René Gruss. A proud Kiwi living here in the UK, René has carved a unique path in the world of classical music, earning international recognition, including a nod from Led Zeppelin’s Robert Plant, who called his album Bellatrix “stunning.” But beyond his accolades, René is on a mission: to create music that fosters change, well-being, and a deeper connection to the world around us.

    As AI continues to reshape creative industries, René offers a fascinating counterpoint: for him, music is instinctual, human, and deeply personal, elements he believes AI can never replicate. While he acknowledges AI’s usefulness in administration and production, he argues that true musical expression remains firmly in the hands of humans. His insights challenge the current AI-driven narrative, offering a refreshing perspective on the irreplaceable value of human creativity.

    The conversation takes a deep dive into the collapse of the traditional record industry, the exploitative nature of streaming platforms, and how blockchain and AI could help rebuild a more sustainable, artist-centric music ecosystem. René also introduces his latest project, 'Reflections and Connections', designed to help people reconnect with themselves and the natural world through music.

    Join us for a thought-provoking discussion on the intersection of creativity, technology, and the fight for artistic integrity in the age of AI.

    Find René Gruss

    • Website – https://www.renegruss.com
    • LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ren%C3%A9-gruss-composer/

    Other people/organisations mentioned

    • Robert Plan (Led Zeppelin) – https://www.robertplant.com
    • Classic FM – https://www.classicfm.com
    • Guildhall School of Music & Drama – https://www.gsmd.ac.uk
    • Yehudi Menuhin – https://www.menuhinschool.co.uk/
    • Sir Paul McCartney – https://www.paulmccartney.com
    • Oscar Wilde – http://www.cmgww.com/historic/wilde/
    • Paganini – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Paganini
    • Mozart – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart
    • Mahler – https://gustavmahler.com/
    • Liszt – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Liszt
    • Charles Dickens – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Dickens
    • Albert Einstein – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein
    • Spotify – https://www.spotify.com
    • Apple Music – https://music.apple.com
    • YouTube – https://www.youtube.com
    • Facebook – https://www.facebook.com
    • Instagram – https://www.instagram.com
    • Blockchain technology –  https://www.blockchain.com

    Host: Lena Robinson | Stay Curious

    44 min

About Humans WithAI

From the publisher's feed

Hosted by David Brown, the show features honest conversations about the human impact of AI. What started as Creatives WithAI in 2023 has evolved into a broader look at how AI is reshaping careers, industries, identity and opportunity far beyond the creative world.