In a non schemes based episode, Ian hates the status of live show photography. Patrick doesn't care. Overall we both fail at imparting what we want to.

Ian gets cruised in a Nebraska bathroom and releases 2 music videos, Patrick still working on his animated pitch, both of us believe you should destroy your heroes.

Ian gets cruised in a Nebraska bathroom and releases 2 music videos, Patrick still working on his animated pitch, both of us believe you should destroy your heroes.

Patrick is suddenly working on an animated series, Ian is on tour but trying to stay productive, both of us agree writing is a task for delusional losers.

Patrick is suddenly working on an animated series, Ian is on tour but trying to stay productive, both of us agree writing is a task for delusional losers.

One of us does drugs, both of us can't make it very far into Too Old To Die Young.

One of us does drugs, both of us can't make it very far into Too Old To Die Young.

Ian is in preproduction, Patrick is broke. Both of us had run ins with Spike Jonze at one point or another.

Ian is in preproduction, Patrick is broke. Both of us had run ins with Spike Jonze at one point or another.

We started a podcast to have honest conversations about art and career but then we discuss haters for far too long, Patrick is setting up for something big and Ian is at creative rock bottom.