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*WARNING: This podcast mentions suicide, sexual abuse & trauma and may be triggering.
Episode Summary
In Part 2 of their deeply emotional conversation with her mother Sandy, Lisa and her mom reflect on a story their family carried quietly for decades. Together, they revisit the painful moment when Lisa’s father died by suicide and the decision Sandy made in the late 1970s to tell her young daughter that he had died of a heart attack instead. At the time, suicide was rarely spoken about openly, and the stigma surrounding mental illness made honesty feel impossible.
As they talk, Sandy shares what it was like to carry that secret while trying to protect her child from a truth she feared would cause even deeper pain. Lisa reflects on what it meant to grow up without knowing the full story, and how learning the truth 35 years later reshaped her understanding of grief, loss, and her own life. Their conversation gently explores the complicated space between protection and silence — and how the absence of truth can quietly shape a family’s story.
Together, they also discuss how the cultural landscape around suicide and mental health has changed since those earlier years. What was once hidden and whispered about is now being spoken aloud with courage and compassion. By sharing their story openly today, Lisa and Sandy hope to help break the silence that once surrounded their own experience and to remind others that no family should have to carry grief in isolation.
Ultimately, this conversation is about more than loss. It’s about truth, understanding, and the healing that can happen when we allow ourselves to speak the things that once felt unspeakable. By telling their story now, mother and daughter show that even decades later, honesty can open the door to connection, compassion, and hope.
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By Lisa Sugarman & Natasha J. Layton5
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*WARNING: This podcast mentions suicide, sexual abuse & trauma and may be triggering.
Episode Summary
In Part 2 of their deeply emotional conversation with her mother Sandy, Lisa and her mom reflect on a story their family carried quietly for decades. Together, they revisit the painful moment when Lisa’s father died by suicide and the decision Sandy made in the late 1970s to tell her young daughter that he had died of a heart attack instead. At the time, suicide was rarely spoken about openly, and the stigma surrounding mental illness made honesty feel impossible.
As they talk, Sandy shares what it was like to carry that secret while trying to protect her child from a truth she feared would cause even deeper pain. Lisa reflects on what it meant to grow up without knowing the full story, and how learning the truth 35 years later reshaped her understanding of grief, loss, and her own life. Their conversation gently explores the complicated space between protection and silence — and how the absence of truth can quietly shape a family’s story.
Together, they also discuss how the cultural landscape around suicide and mental health has changed since those earlier years. What was once hidden and whispered about is now being spoken aloud with courage and compassion. By sharing their story openly today, Lisa and Sandy hope to help break the silence that once surrounded their own experience and to remind others that no family should have to carry grief in isolation.
Ultimately, this conversation is about more than loss. It’s about truth, understanding, and the healing that can happen when we allow ourselves to speak the things that once felt unspeakable. By telling their story now, mother and daughter show that even decades later, honesty can open the door to connection, compassion, and hope.
Episode Sponsored by The HelpHUB™
Takeaways
Chapters
Mental Health Resources
Follow & Connect With Us
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_survivors_podcast
🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-survivors-podcast
🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSurvivorsPodcastChannel
🎵📱TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thesurvivorspodcast
See you next week! In the meantime, keep surviving.